Garmin IMG - better control of visible content (lines, objects)
Gathering feedback
I would like to the following features added for Garmin/IMG maps.
1. Options to enable/disable all objects/lines on a map.
2. Options to change thickness of lines (roads, trails, etc).
3. Options to set custom color for lines (roads, trails, etc).
Thank you!
I like this idea 
Option to change linetype would be nice as well ... basically it would be nice to accept .typ configuration files. Thanks.
Option to change linetype would be nice as well ... basically it would be nice to accept .typ configuration files. Thanks.
I was unaware of .typ files but after reading up on is that sounds good too although certainly for more advanced users. You should start another thread for the .typ file support so people can vote.
Update: I guess I'm not sure if a different topic should be created as the title of my topic was changed to be more general...
I was unaware of .typ files but after reading up on is that sounds good too although certainly for more advanced users. You should start another thread for the .typ file support so people can vote.
Update: I guess I'm not sure if a different topic should be created as the title of my topic was changed to be more general...
To be honest Garmin as a company is a pure evil..overpriced gadgets with so called "Lifetime map update support" which means until we decide to quit support your gadget (usualy 2-3 years after release). Lame GUI, path calculating algorithm in car nav is a joke in comparison with Sygic, TomTom etc. Garmin Topo map is for kids and miles behind of a quality 2D offline map from free MOBAC mapsources or you can buy a decent outdoor map for almost any country SHOCART, KOMPASS etc. Seriously Garmin Topo is for person who is so lazy or even cant read outdoor maps...thats the fact. And I know why Locus has only 5% of US users...locus has more than 4 buttons and you need to read/learn a bit about how to set it up with offline maps...its a way too much effort for a common yankee...I wouldn't bother with support of these dinosaurs (Garmin users, IMG format) at all. Maybe a huge market but I really dont want Locus to become a tool designed just to display an overpriced non-detailed obsolete IMG vector map with connection to a twitter account. Leave this to the iphone developers pls and focus on more useful functions for us :) thx!
To be honest Garmin as a company is a pure evil..overpriced gadgets with so called "Lifetime map update support" which means until we decide to quit support your gadget (usualy 2-3 years after release). Lame GUI, path calculating algorithm in car nav is a joke in comparison with Sygic, TomTom etc. Garmin Topo map is for kids and miles behind of a quality 2D offline map from free MOBAC mapsources or you can buy a decent outdoor map for almost any country SHOCART, KOMPASS etc. Seriously Garmin Topo is for person who is so lazy or even cant read outdoor maps...thats the fact. And I know why Locus has only 5% of US users...locus has more than 4 buttons and you need to read/learn a bit about how to set it up with offline maps...its a way too much effort for a common yankee...I wouldn't bother with support of these dinosaurs (Garmin users, IMG format) at all. Maybe a huge market but I really dont want Locus to become a tool designed just to display an overpriced non-detailed obsolete IMG vector map with connection to a twitter account. Leave this to the iphone developers pls and focus on more useful functions for us :) thx!
Robin K, I TOTALLY AGREE on your last post. :)
Robin K, I TOTALLY AGREE on your last post. :)
Garmin is so "popular" because they caught the car nav business at the times when no one could even think that a good navigation could be just a piece of software in a cellphone. So trillions of people bought this overpriced boxes with overpriced maps. We all here know that those times are gone but Garmin is still milking all those gaffers that thinks a cellphone is for calls/texting only or they just simply can't say farewell to their magic box which cost them an arm and a leg. I've tried tons of gps soft and from the big players on the market - Garmin is the worst almost in everything. As far as I know Locus developers have a limited amount of time for developing their software and I personally think there is a lot of other good ideas how to improve Locus and supporting the old-timers is not one of them. It's time to move on boys ;)
To your speechless comment: In general the american market will be always focused on simplicity instead of more complex/useful solutions. Steve Jobs knew it and that's why his products infested brains of so many yankees :).
Have a nice day gaffers ;)
Garmin is so "popular" because they caught the car nav business at the times when no one could even think that a good navigation could be just a piece of software in a cellphone. So trillions of people bought this overpriced boxes with overpriced maps. We all here know that those times are gone but Garmin is still milking all those gaffers that thinks a cellphone is for calls/texting only or they just simply can't say farewell to their magic box which cost them an arm and a leg. I've tried tons of gps soft and from the big players on the market - Garmin is the worst almost in everything. As far as I know Locus developers have a limited amount of time for developing their software and I personally think there is a lot of other good ideas how to improve Locus and supporting the old-timers is not one of them. It's time to move on boys ;)
To your speechless comment: In general the american market will be always focused on simplicity instead of more complex/useful solutions. Steve Jobs knew it and that's why his products infested brains of so many yankees :).
Have a nice day gaffers ;)
Garmin was popular way before there were auto navigation gps units and well before smartphones...
This has NOTHING to do with supporting old timers! This is about supporting industry standard maps.
Garmin was popular way before there were auto navigation gps units and well before smartphones...
This has NOTHING to do with supporting old timers! This is about supporting industry standard maps.
BTW... Google/Android is also a USA product. Funny how you picked iphone/apple/steve jobs as your example.
BTW... Google/Android is also a USA product. Funny how you picked iphone/apple/steve jobs as your example.
Guys guys, I think we should end this discussion right now. As Robin wrote, this idea (generally all around IMG + Locus) is about supporting existing IMG format. Nothing more. It has nothing to do with Garmin. I'm also not a fan of this company, I've never used single device from them, but it's really out of this topic.
So generally, basic functionality is already done.
Idea here is about investing quite a lot of time, to extended possibilities of styling visible IMG maps. Vote + or -, but discussion if Garmin company is + or - do not belongs here. Thanks!
Guys guys, I think we should end this discussion right now. As Robin wrote, this idea (generally all around IMG + Locus) is about supporting existing IMG format. Nothing more. It has nothing to do with Garmin. I'm also not a fan of this company, I've never used single device from them, but it's really out of this topic.
So generally, basic functionality is already done.
Idea here is about investing quite a lot of time, to extended possibilities of styling visible IMG maps. Vote + or -, but discussion if Garmin company is + or - do not belongs here. Thanks!
I have been waiting and watching patiently for someone to come up with a real alternative to Garmin hardware and software. Garmin has been the best for a long time for cyclist, motorcyclists and people who are really interested in creating detailed routes before setting off on their journey. Although they have been the best there is massive room for improvement and there has been a lot of frustration, for me especially on their Base Camp software.
I think its impressive that a relatively small team, such as your`s is offering such a customisable product. A lot of that is due to listening to the market, something Garmin has not been doing, too much money spent in all the wrong places, what a waste. I think any advance locus makes in being able to read these very prevalent IMG files brings them one step closer to attracting the early adopters from the cycling and motorcycling community. If they like it, then the rest of the community will follow in droves.
I too am frustrated with the offering from Garmin, but love the widely available maps, therefore I vote yes to any progress towards good software that can read these maps. I hope to see one day a product like yours that can even accept / sell or license companies like Navtec /Here maps (Map provider to Garmin in many countries). That would be a match made in heaven. Until the day when OSM maps become the best of course! That will be even better!!
I have been waiting and watching patiently for someone to come up with a real alternative to Garmin hardware and software. Garmin has been the best for a long time for cyclist, motorcyclists and people who are really interested in creating detailed routes before setting off on their journey. Although they have been the best there is massive room for improvement and there has been a lot of frustration, for me especially on their Base Camp software.
I think its impressive that a relatively small team, such as your`s is offering such a customisable product. A lot of that is due to listening to the market, something Garmin has not been doing, too much money spent in all the wrong places, what a waste. I think any advance locus makes in being able to read these very prevalent IMG files brings them one step closer to attracting the early adopters from the cycling and motorcycling community. If they like it, then the rest of the community will follow in droves.
I too am frustrated with the offering from Garmin, but love the widely available maps, therefore I vote yes to any progress towards good software that can read these maps. I hope to see one day a product like yours that can even accept / sell or license companies like Navtec /Here maps (Map provider to Garmin in many countries). That would be a match made in heaven. Until the day when OSM maps become the best of course! That will be even better!!
I ride motorcycles, and use Locus for my bike on my phone almost exclusively. Yes I have a car but dont use it.
I like to map out rides that I am going to take. Right now I use Furkot to do that. They have added a curvy roads function which works very well.
I use them to map out the route, Export it as a Garmin type gpx file and then import into Locus.
There are a few issues with this but so far it is the best I have found.
I HOPE they stay with it and keep developing. I have not use nor money for Garmin products or maps.
I ride motorcycles, and use Locus for my bike on my phone almost exclusively. Yes I have a car but dont use it.
I like to map out rides that I am going to take. Right now I use Furkot to do that. They have added a curvy roads function which works very well.
I use them to map out the route, Export it as a Garmin type gpx file and then import into Locus.
There are a few issues with this but so far it is the best I have found.
I HOPE they stay with it and keep developing. I have not use nor money for Garmin products or maps.
Here's an example of the very same map data file (a Garmin .img) on Oruxmaps and on Locus. There are two major problems with Locus: missing markings and colours.
Did I understand correctly that the point presented in this idea "Options to enable/disable all objects/lines on a map." would be the answer to the former? An example would be those little X-markings that can be seen in the Orux version; they're road blocks that prevent passage to those roads.
For those interested: the examples show data from the Topographic Database by the National Land Survey of Finland.
Here's an example of the very same map data file (a Garmin .img) on Oruxmaps and on Locus. There are two major problems with Locus: missing markings and colours.
Did I understand correctly that the point presented in this idea "Options to enable/disable all objects/lines on a map." would be the answer to the former? An example would be those little X-markings that can be seen in the Orux version; they're road blocks that prevent passage to those roads.
For those interested: the examples show data from the Topographic Database by the National Land Survey of Finland.
I would like to add a reason why Locus Map should enable as much functinality as possible for Garmin maps.
As I teach using Locus for various audiences I got aware of truck drivers,. Their apps lack information about street limitations for their trucks, if they don't use a specialised app for trucks. Actually there is a OSM project called OSM Transport Map, to address this. The only format they release maps in is Garmin img. While I can load that image into Locus Map Pro, I can't see the traffic signs, height and weight limits etc. which you could see on a Garmin device and which the routing enginge uses for route calculation. I consider the latter as not so important, but seeing the signs would be great and would turn attraction from other users to Locus Map Pro.
From time to time I see maps which are in the Garmin format. Maybe its worth to think about invreasing the functinality, to makes these maps usable.
Cheers
AWo
I would like to add a reason why Locus Map should enable as much functinality as possible for Garmin maps.
As I teach using Locus for various audiences I got aware of truck drivers,. Their apps lack information about street limitations for their trucks, if they don't use a specialised app for trucks. Actually there is a OSM project called OSM Transport Map, to address this. The only format they release maps in is Garmin img. While I can load that image into Locus Map Pro, I can't see the traffic signs, height and weight limits etc. which you could see on a Garmin device and which the routing enginge uses for route calculation. I consider the latter as not so important, but seeing the signs would be great and would turn attraction from other users to Locus Map Pro.
From time to time I see maps which are in the Garmin format. Maybe its worth to think about invreasing the functinality, to makes these maps usable.
Cheers
AWo
This is pretty much a joke at this point. Menion can't see beyond his vision and fails to acknowledge the importance of IMG maps. I wouldn't doubt he still is concerned about legal issues despite the fact that the IMG container is not owned by Garmin and they have no rights to prevent any app from reading non-copyrighted IMG maps. I really had high hopes for this for a long time but instead of improving real/useful functionality (IMG maps) Locus keeps re-doing interface/gui layout and functionality which is unnecessary. I still use Locus but it has become a secondary option and I've stopped recommending it to people. Don't get your hopes up!
This is pretty much a joke at this point. Menion can't see beyond his vision and fails to acknowledge the importance of IMG maps. I wouldn't doubt he still is concerned about legal issues despite the fact that the IMG container is not owned by Garmin and they have no rights to prevent any app from reading non-copyrighted IMG maps. I really had high hopes for this for a long time but instead of improving real/useful functionality (IMG maps) Locus keeps re-doing interface/gui layout and functionality which is unnecessary. I still use Locus but it has become a secondary option and I've stopped recommending it to people. Don't get your hopes up!
@Andreas Woithon, thank you for your opinion!
@Robin K. ... Menion see beyond his vision (btw. what is my vision I should not see beyond??) and he is also not stuck on legal problems. Solution that is currently in Locus Map is based on public library http://websites.milonic.com/jgarminimg.sourceforge.net/ . Without a lot of work, it is not possible to display maps better then now. So this idea is not about one/two evening of work, it's about at least three months of full time work to create working system for Garmin themes etc. etc. And this is the problem ... at least for me now, sorry.
@Andreas Woithon, thank you for your opinion!
@Robin K. ... Menion see beyond his vision (btw. what is my vision I should not see beyond??) and he is also not stuck on legal problems. Solution that is currently in Locus Map is based on public library http://websites.milonic.com/jgarminimg.sourceforge.net/ . Without a lot of work, it is not possible to display maps better then now. So this idea is not about one/two evening of work, it's about at least three months of full time work to create working system for Garmin themes etc. etc. And this is the problem ... at least for me now, sorry.
Menion,As I understand it's an open source library so then then the source is available. It should be easy enough to gradually tweak and improve IMG support having the source. In fact in the past you had asked for some specifics to improve IMG support and now a year later nothing more has been done. Your excuse it likely that it has not received enough votes which is just dumb because the only people on the forum who vote are the hardcore users. It's the everyday people that hike, bike, snowmobile, ride motorcycle, etc that need this not the hardcore geeks hanging out on the forum voting. There are so many unnecessary changes in Locus that have clearly consumed a ton of time yet one of the most common offline map types still has very limited and in most cases unusable support and this is because of your "vision"... As I have noted in the past anyone who publishes a public map for something likely published in a IMG format because Garmins are so popular yet one of the best smartphone mapping apps continues to refuse to embrace the format. It's just really sad!!
Menion,As I understand it's an open source library so then then the source is available. It should be easy enough to gradually tweak and improve IMG support having the source. In fact in the past you had asked for some specifics to improve IMG support and now a year later nothing more has been done. Your excuse it likely that it has not received enough votes which is just dumb because the only people on the forum who vote are the hardcore users. It's the everyday people that hike, bike, snowmobile, ride motorcycle, etc that need this not the hardcore geeks hanging out on the forum voting. There are so many unnecessary changes in Locus that have clearly consumed a ton of time yet one of the most common offline map types still has very limited and in most cases unusable support and this is because of your "vision"... As I have noted in the past anyone who publishes a public map for something likely published in a IMG format because Garmins are so popular yet one of the best smartphone mapping apps continues to refuse to embrace the format. It's just really sad!!
Oh, to answer your question... "btw. what is my vision I should not see beyond?" Your vision is that IMG format is not something you would use and therefore not important. I guarantee if IMG was important to you it would have been implemented a long time ago and would probably be incredibly flexible and powerful because it's very clear that what is within your vision you go all out and beyond expectations....
Oh, to answer your question... "btw. what is my vision I should not see beyond?" Your vision is that IMG format is not something you would use and therefore not important. I guarantee if IMG was important to you it would have been implemented a long time ago and would probably be incredibly flexible and powerful because it's very clear that what is within your vision you go all out and beyond expectations....
Menion,
All I have ever asked for is continued progress and improvement of the IMG format. I and anyone else will be happy to get what we can because the alternative is effectively unusable. To be completely honest I am hoping that once you dig in and become more familiar with IMG format that you continue to improve the functionality and customization capabilities. I've been a long time user of Lucas and understand that you and your team are incredibly capable and produce amazing results when you *want to*. I wish I could figure out a way to help you understand the importance of IMG maps for standard consumers. From my experience IMG is by far the most popular format used to delivery offline maps since Garmin GPS units are so popular. You could be opening the door for an entirely new scope of users by having good and thorough IMG support in Locus. To be fair that will likely take a lot more effort then you are willing to do now but if the first steps/improvements are not taking the latter will never get done.
Imagine if Locus had full and complete support for IMG maps where a user can fully customize the layout. Furthermore, img files could be associated the Locus so when a user download it from the web to their Android phone/tablet it automatically opens Locus and prompts to import and display the map. If you ever get to this point and advertise this functionality I guarantee you would see additional sales....
I personally would not be against making this an addon that costs extra but that would likely not be in line with increased overall sales of Locus.
None the less I hope you will take another look at IMG and consider making it a high priority. No one is expecting everything at once but if we can keep improving over time it would satisfy a lot of people.
Thank you!
Menion,
All I have ever asked for is continued progress and improvement of the IMG format. I and anyone else will be happy to get what we can because the alternative is effectively unusable. To be completely honest I am hoping that once you dig in and become more familiar with IMG format that you continue to improve the functionality and customization capabilities. I've been a long time user of Lucas and understand that you and your team are incredibly capable and produce amazing results when you *want to*. I wish I could figure out a way to help you understand the importance of IMG maps for standard consumers. From my experience IMG is by far the most popular format used to delivery offline maps since Garmin GPS units are so popular. You could be opening the door for an entirely new scope of users by having good and thorough IMG support in Locus. To be fair that will likely take a lot more effort then you are willing to do now but if the first steps/improvements are not taking the latter will never get done.
Imagine if Locus had full and complete support for IMG maps where a user can fully customize the layout. Furthermore, img files could be associated the Locus so when a user download it from the web to their Android phone/tablet it automatically opens Locus and prompts to import and display the map. If you ever get to this point and advertise this functionality I guarantee you would see additional sales....
I personally would not be against making this an addon that costs extra but that would likely not be in line with increased overall sales of Locus.
None the less I hope you will take another look at IMG and consider making it a high priority. No one is expecting everything at once but if we can keep improving over time it would satisfy a lot of people.
Thank you!
Even I couldn't said it better.. :)
img maps are wide spread because Garmin is still number one in number/quality of units
Even I couldn't said it better.. :)
img maps are wide spread because Garmin is still number one in number/quality of units
But OSM is the future.
I do know of some quality IMG-format non-DRM'd map sets from my Garmin days (Ibycus, Malsing / MalFreeMaps, and Proyecto Mapear come to mind), but nowadays? I'd be surprised if the OSM equivalents aren't better now, and I'll always be looking at OSM first.
My Garmin is covered in dust on a shelf.
But OSM is the future.
I do know of some quality IMG-format non-DRM'd map sets from my Garmin days (Ibycus, Malsing / MalFreeMaps, and Proyecto Mapear come to mind), but nowadays? I'd be surprised if the OSM equivalents aren't better now, and I'll always be looking at OSM first.
My Garmin is covered in dust on a shelf.
Viajero - You must be joking, right? In a quick search of public websites offering GPS downloads not one has an OSM option but they all have IMG, GPX, and some offer a KMZ. Although smartphones do work really good with the larger screens the reality is when it comes to a lot of outdoor sports the serious people want rugged, reliable, and dedicated GPS devices because GPS failure is not an option. The reality is that different people have different needs and Locus is neglecting a huge scope of users because it effetively dos not support IMG maps.
Viajero - You must be joking, right? In a quick search of public websites offering GPS downloads not one has an OSM option but they all have IMG, GPX, and some offer a KMZ. Although smartphones do work really good with the larger screens the reality is when it comes to a lot of outdoor sports the serious people want rugged, reliable, and dedicated GPS devices because GPS failure is not an option. The reality is that different people have different needs and Locus is neglecting a huge scope of users because it effetively dos not support IMG maps.
I think the vote count is misleading, a proper alternative to garmin GPS units would be a BIG deal. As good as openandromap, OSM and the like are for general use, the vast majority of pro trail\topo\specific use maps are sold in IMG. Locus already leaves pretty much every other GPS software or garmin units in the dust in my opinion, only thing garmin still has is their maps, and the routing that goes with them.
I undertand this is a major thing to implement, but it would really put Locus in a class of its own, and finally provide an alternative to garmin for a LOT of people, that probably don't even give Locus a second look because the maps are just not available.
I think the vote count is misleading, a proper alternative to garmin GPS units would be a BIG deal. As good as openandromap, OSM and the like are for general use, the vast majority of pro trail\topo\specific use maps are sold in IMG. Locus already leaves pretty much every other GPS software or garmin units in the dust in my opinion, only thing garmin still has is their maps, and the routing that goes with them.
I undertand this is a major thing to implement, but it would really put Locus in a class of its own, and finally provide an alternative to garmin for a LOT of people, that probably don't even give Locus a second look because the maps are just not available.
I read this thread with interest because I had no idea there were Garmin maps of such quality that people would be pressuring Menion to improve support for them. This is news to me!
I hike in the northeastern US and critical reviews of Garmin's TOPO US 24K Northeast indicate the maps are years out of date (see amazon.com). If all you want are contours and major roads, you'll be fine otherwise you may be disappointed with your US$99 purchase. They're not much better than the USGS 7.5' TOPO maps and those are decades out of date. In my experience, if you want accurate trails (in the Northeast US) you'll do better with OpenStreetMap (OSM) or a competitor's product.
I do use Garmin's Basecamp so naturally I need maps in IMG format on my PC. I turn to https://www.gpsfiledepot.com/ and download a free map of the northeastern US. Alternately, I can get the OSM map in IMG format from here: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/ Of course, loading these non-Garmin IMG files into Basecamp requires some gymnastics (using defunct software utilities from dubious sources) ... so it's not for everyone.
I also own a Garmin Rino 530 HCx which has been my "workhorse" for off-trail navigation. It contains a free map version of upstate New York. Since I use it off-trail, the map's lack of (accurate) trails isn't a major drawback.
Perhaps Garmin's maps are accurate for other purposes (I noticed the reference above to truck drivers) or in other regions of the world. Maybe they will improve, for the NorthEastern US, now that Garmin has purchased Delorme. Therefore I'm neither upvoting or downvoting this suggestion because, honestly, I'm indifferent to it (IMG files aren't useful to me).
FWIW, the last time I checked (about 2 years ago), I learned Garmin never published the internal structure of IMG files. The format was reverse-engineered by someone (possibly by the author of cgpsmapper) except for how Garmin stores altitude data. Maybe that's changed by now.
I read this thread with interest because I had no idea there were Garmin maps of such quality that people would be pressuring Menion to improve support for them. This is news to me!
I hike in the northeastern US and critical reviews of Garmin's TOPO US 24K Northeast indicate the maps are years out of date (see amazon.com). If all you want are contours and major roads, you'll be fine otherwise you may be disappointed with your US$99 purchase. They're not much better than the USGS 7.5' TOPO maps and those are decades out of date. In my experience, if you want accurate trails (in the Northeast US) you'll do better with OpenStreetMap (OSM) or a competitor's product.
I do use Garmin's Basecamp so naturally I need maps in IMG format on my PC. I turn to https://www.gpsfiledepot.com/ and download a free map of the northeastern US. Alternately, I can get the OSM map in IMG format from here: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/ Of course, loading these non-Garmin IMG files into Basecamp requires some gymnastics (using defunct software utilities from dubious sources) ... so it's not for everyone.
I also own a Garmin Rino 530 HCx which has been my "workhorse" for off-trail navigation. It contains a free map version of upstate New York. Since I use it off-trail, the map's lack of (accurate) trails isn't a major drawback.
Perhaps Garmin's maps are accurate for other purposes (I noticed the reference above to truck drivers) or in other regions of the world. Maybe they will improve, for the NorthEastern US, now that Garmin has purchased Delorme. Therefore I'm neither upvoting or downvoting this suggestion because, honestly, I'm indifferent to it (IMG files aren't useful to me).
FWIW, the last time I checked (about 2 years ago), I learned Garmin never published the internal structure of IMG files. The format was reverse-engineered by someone (possibly by the author of cgpsmapper) except for how Garmin stores altitude data. Maybe that's changed by now.
Taras we are not talking about the maps that come from Garmin directly, these are terrible, we are talking about third party maps made for garmin GPS units in IMG format. Important difference some of you seem to be misunderstanding.
Here's an example:
https://www.trakmaps.com/en/products/gps/atv/ontario/
Taras we are not talking about the maps that come from Garmin directly, these are terrible, we are talking about third party maps made for garmin GPS units in IMG format. Important difference some of you seem to be misunderstanding.
Here's an example:
https://www.trakmaps.com/en/products/gps/atv/ontario/
"In the most south american countries there are groups which offer free maps for offroad, cities ..."
Because not everybody lives in South America ;-)
Because it is very popular.
Because it would be a way to "move" people which stick to Garmin to LMP. They have the chance to see new things, without loosing their garmin maps.
Because the only free truck map I know was published in the Garmin format. You can load that in LMP, but it doesn't show the truck-relevant data.
Cheers
AWo
"In the most south american countries there are groups which offer free maps for offroad, cities ..."
Because not everybody lives in South America ;-)
Because it is very popular.
Because it would be a way to "move" people which stick to Garmin to LMP. They have the chance to see new things, without loosing their garmin maps.
Because the only free truck map I know was published in the Garmin format. You can load that in LMP, but it doesn't show the truck-relevant data.
Cheers
AWo
I'm a visitor looking for an android app that will allow me to upload my garmin IMP files ;-) and this goes to the root of why I'm not looking at Locus- it's not supporting my needs. MaxB and Robin are dead nuts on it- you won't find us here (most likely) since your not supporting the ability to import the IMG Garmin files we purchase to use with this software it appears. Perhaps people expect someone to purchase the software and grow to like it. Not likely here in the US- we've purchased software and won't to still utilize what we've purchased- even if you geek types like your software better. It's not about the steak, but the sizzle. Trying to convince us that OSM maps are better is missing the point/sale. So, as they say, insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result. I registered just to provide some input- most wouldn't bother but after trying to figure out the Oruxmaps I'm still looking...I'm not lazy but I have better things to do like surf, dive, hike, canyon and would rather spend my time or a few $$ on what works...
I'm a visitor looking for an android app that will allow me to upload my garmin IMP files ;-) and this goes to the root of why I'm not looking at Locus- it's not supporting my needs. MaxB and Robin are dead nuts on it- you won't find us here (most likely) since your not supporting the ability to import the IMG Garmin files we purchase to use with this software it appears. Perhaps people expect someone to purchase the software and grow to like it. Not likely here in the US- we've purchased software and won't to still utilize what we've purchased- even if you geek types like your software better. It's not about the steak, but the sizzle. Trying to convince us that OSM maps are better is missing the point/sale. So, as they say, insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result. I registered just to provide some input- most wouldn't bother but after trying to figure out the Oruxmaps I'm still looking...I'm not lazy but I have better things to do like surf, dive, hike, canyon and would rather spend my time or a few $$ on what works...
There are people that work the Garmin maps. What do the different?
There are people that work the Garmin maps. What do the different?
Good day guys,
I'm reacting mainly on Robin's post, few hours ago.
When you search on Google Play for apps that support Garmin img files, you find: OruxMaps, Locus Map ... and ... and ... nothing? What an coincidence. Orux do it little better then Locus, so I suggest and recommend this app if you have desperate need to use IMG maps.
Why this? Why such worldwide used format, that everyone needs and wants to use, is used only in two apps on Android platform ( correct me if I am wrong )? Because there is no existing implementation of it's template files, because even implementation of IMG reader itself is done only partially and is not work perfectly, because creating of full support for this format ( we are talking about unlocked maps!!! ) is extra work on at least half an year if even simply possible!
I've spend on existing version many days so I know how complicated it is ( at least for me ). I was also search for exact specification of TYP file, but wasn't able to find any. So how you all simply imagine, that this may be done, when there are no available exact information about this format?
And if you think, that I can't see beyond my "my" vision ( vision you think I have ), then sorry, but you are wrong. I think that I'm clever enough to understand your needs here and got the point, but compare to you I see also technical solution, which is currently main breaking problem. Dot.
Good day guys,
I'm reacting mainly on Robin's post, few hours ago.
When you search on Google Play for apps that support Garmin img files, you find: OruxMaps, Locus Map ... and ... and ... nothing? What an coincidence. Orux do it little better then Locus, so I suggest and recommend this app if you have desperate need to use IMG maps.
Why this? Why such worldwide used format, that everyone needs and wants to use, is used only in two apps on Android platform ( correct me if I am wrong )? Because there is no existing implementation of it's template files, because even implementation of IMG reader itself is done only partially and is not work perfectly, because creating of full support for this format ( we are talking about unlocked maps!!! ) is extra work on at least half an year if even simply possible!
I've spend on existing version many days so I know how complicated it is ( at least for me ). I was also search for exact specification of TYP file, but wasn't able to find any. So how you all simply imagine, that this may be done, when there are no available exact information about this format?
And if you think, that I can't see beyond my "my" vision ( vision you think I have ), then sorry, but you are wrong. I think that I'm clever enough to understand your needs here and got the point, but compare to you I see also technical solution, which is currently main breaking problem. Dot.
I would also pay 50$ for a properly implemented garmin .img map
I would also pay 50$ for a properly implemented garmin .img map
Could it be an idea to invest more money and employ other programmers and sell a better locus version later on. Maybe locos maps ultra for 15 euro or dollar
Am 22.02.2017 11:20 vorm. schrieb "Locus Map" :
Could it be an idea to invest more money and employ other programmers and sell a better locus version later on. Maybe locos maps ultra for 15 euro or dollar
Am 22.02.2017 11:20 vorm. schrieb "Locus Map" :
I've suggested making IMG support a paid ad-on to the base product too. I would gladly pay extra for this functionality!
I've suggested making IMG support a paid ad-on to the base product too. I would gladly pay extra for this functionality!
Garmin's IMG map format:
All that's available to developers is an incomplete third-party API based on incomplete reverse-engineering of the IMG file format.
If you really want to see improved support for IMG files, login to SourceForge and take over the JGarminImgParser project (untouched since 2008): https://sourceforge.net/projects/jgarminimg/files/jgarminimg/
Make all the improvements you feel are needed to it and you'll be helping Menion to enhance Locus Map's support for IMG files.
Garmin's IMG map format:
All that's available to developers is an incomplete third-party API based on incomplete reverse-engineering of the IMG file format.
If you really want to see improved support for IMG files, login to SourceForge and take over the JGarminImgParser project (untouched since 2008): https://sourceforge.net/projects/jgarminimg/files/jgarminimg/
Make all the improvements you feel are needed to it and you'll be helping Menion to enhance Locus Map's support for IMG files.
I would also like to pay extra when this feature comes. Garmin tickets are still important for the next few years. In 10 years OSM will be better and we will not need Garmin anymore.
I would also like to pay extra when this feature comes. Garmin tickets are still important for the next few years. In 10 years OSM will be better and we will not need Garmin anymore.
I would also pay 20 euros. Have so many good Garmin cards. If I have to buy all at compass again, I pay much more. And OSM is often not enough, there are still some remote paths.
I would also pay 20 euros. Have so many good Garmin cards. If I have to buy all at compass again, I pay much more. And OSM is often not enough, there are still some remote paths.
This is a good idea with the extra pay for this feature. Perhaps the support of the cards is now implemented. I am also willing to pay 15 euros.
This is a good idea with the extra pay for this feature. Perhaps the support of the cards is now implemented. I am also willing to pay 15 euros.
I'm sure that many people will pay extra for that function. I still need to use my Garmin GPS just because the IMG maps.
I'm sure that many people will pay extra for that function. I still need to use my Garmin GPS just because the IMG maps.
Support for Garmin maps. Yes I also would pay for!
Support for Garmin maps. Yes I also would pay for!
I would also pay but 20 euros is too much. 8 euros is ok.
I would also pay but 20 euros is too much. 8 euros is ok.
It's the only chance to get the function. Because the effort is very large. But pay better than not at all. If the interest becomes larger, it may cost very little.
It's the only chance to get the function. Because the effort is very large. But pay better than not at all. If the interest becomes larger, it may cost very little.
I could imagine the following:
Have a plattform where costumers can vote on what is missing or what they would like to have.
Sum up the results, break them up into different project if necessary.
Calculate the cost for an external professional.
Make your ideas available on https://www.kickstarter.com/ or an other crowfunding plattform.
Make the ideas more public and add add add for it.
If you have enough interested people, go for it.
I could imagine the following:
Have a plattform where costumers can vote on what is missing or what they would like to have.
Sum up the results, break them up into different project if necessary.
Calculate the cost for an external professional.
Make your ideas available on https://www.kickstarter.com/ or an other crowfunding plattform.
Make the ideas more public and add add add for it.
If you have enough interested people, go for it.
Ok, then we wait more times Vote and look how much it will.
Ok, then we wait more times Vote and look how much it will.
I think Garmin is the best GPS Device i ever used .. i know some problem occurs during using it like regular updating your map and some more . Apart from this garmin device is the best device .
I think Garmin is the best GPS Device i ever used .. i know some problem occurs during using it like regular updating your map and some more . Apart from this garmin device is the best device .
Yes, I do love Garmin maps
Yes, I do use garmin maps in Locus even they look ugly because there is no OSM or whatever alternative to this specific vector map
Yes, the img maps look better in Oruxmaps than in Locus - but I love Locus Maps Pro
Yes, I would love to see Garmin maps better supported in Locus
Yes, I do understand that with JGarminImgParser Menion cannot support garmin TYP (style) files
Yes, I would love to see an option for me to edit the style (that defines how Locus renders IMG maps) in a config file
Yes, I do understand that implementing that is not realistic (timewise) and might bring him under radar of Garmin (similar to google maps)
Yes, Garmin device are great! But having a waterproof smartphone with locus is even better.
Thank you Menion for Garmin IMG support as it is!!!
Yes, I do love Garmin maps
Yes, I do use garmin maps in Locus even they look ugly because there is no OSM or whatever alternative to this specific vector map
Yes, the img maps look better in Oruxmaps than in Locus - but I love Locus Maps Pro
Yes, I would love to see Garmin maps better supported in Locus
Yes, I do understand that with JGarminImgParser Menion cannot support garmin TYP (style) files
Yes, I would love to see an option for me to edit the style (that defines how Locus renders IMG maps) in a config file
Yes, I do understand that implementing that is not realistic (timewise) and might bring him under radar of Garmin (similar to google maps)
Yes, Garmin device are great! But having a waterproof smartphone with locus is even better.
Thank you Menion for Garmin IMG support as it is!!!
Hello, little reminder about this, it would be great to be able to disable visibility of objects(houses), forest labels and international border labels.
Some Garmin topo maps just have almost all of fire roads, forest roads, and old abandoned trails that you can't find elsewhere in offline map.
Thanks for considering.
Hello, little reminder about this, it would be great to be able to disable visibility of objects(houses), forest labels and international border labels.
Some Garmin topo maps just have almost all of fire roads, forest roads, and old abandoned trails that you can't find elsewhere in offline map.
Thanks for considering.
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