Auto zoom levels - manual settings

mark b shared this idea 3 years ago
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Hi Menion, Auto zoom at slow speeds goes to level 18, I

only download maps to zoom level 16 so auto zoom function out of focus, Works

fine for online maps but not always have data coverage and I don’t use data out

in the field. (whole point of downloading maps) When out in the field I use my downloaded maps 4 offline use. Last

version I use to set auto zoom at low speed to level 16 NOT 18. I use locus pro

for off road FOR FOUR WHEEL DRIVING ONLY, so zoom level 16 was maximum I wanted to go to so I could see more of my track. Only way it works for me now is

manual zoom. Next version can you please add option manually customize auto zoom

as was with last version or add this option in recording profile. Also can’t load right panel anymore. Also lost some of my customization when updated to new version, In the meantime

can you please let me know how to revert back to previous version


cheers

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hi Menion, side panel not a problem, just had to reset side panel again 'menu/more /set side panel'. Don't know what happened with losing the way I customized the settings to suit! not really a problem though, more of a inconvenience. I've written them down now so I don't forget them when updating. with auto zoom maybe ok on larger screens, but with the samsung galaxy gt 1900 screen is too small to see more of the map. Sorry about the confusion!

cheers

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Good day Mark,


I'm little bit confused, how your second point is connected to first one.


Anyway I really want to keep this function simply. Best completely without settings. So I'm trying to find some optimal settings, that (with some small compromises), should fit to all needs.


What is exactly problem with zooming to level 18 on your map? Problem is that map is scaled to 400% so it's blurred?

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Menion wrote:

Good day Mark,


I'm little bit confused, how your second point is connected to first one.


Anyway I really want to keep this function simply. Best completely without settings. So I'm trying to find some optimal settings, that (with some small compromises), should fit to all needs.


What is exactly problem with zooming to level 18 on your map? Problem is that map is scaled to 400% so it's blurred?


Hi Menion, Yes that is how I explained prob, my bad. But problem is not seeing enough of map, tracks, routes ect.

Why did locus change map scale to 400%?

Please correct me if I'm wrong!

locus v.3.2.2 had the option to manually change auto zoom levels & zoom was at 100%,

locus v.3.3.0 has auto zoom function (good idea), zoom now 200% not 100% (bad idea),

locus v.3.3.1 has auto zoom function (good idea), zoom now 400% not 200% (bad idea),

locus v.3.3.1 works ok for online & vector topo maps, I don't use vector topo maps because not accurate enough & lack of detail of bush trails in Australia (at least for my region), compared to other maps, which show more of the trails.

Auto zoom for me would work great if zoom was set to 100%, not 200%, 400% or whatever, then map wouldn't be out of focus and you'd be able to see more of the downloaded map, my tracks, routes ect.

In locus v.3.3.1, I can't even use the plus & minus zoom function at 100% (as in locus v.3.2.2) because it is now set to 400% (bad idea)

I'm in middle of downloading a map at the moment so haven't tried re-initializing whole map as yet to see if this fixes problem of focus, but still would see less of my track and routes ect!

1. Maybe the focus would be fixed if when downloading maps to a particular zoom level, it could be set to the same as locus zoom levels. As I understand it, when downloading maps, they are at 100%.

2. In locus v.3.3.1 the plus & minus zoom function is set to 400%. Wondering if it would be possible to put an option in to set back zoom to 100% like the plus & minus zoom function in locus v.3.2.2? This would show more of the downloaded map, my tracks, routes ect at particular zoom levels.

3. Maybe could put this option in 'locus/menu/map-control & panels/the style map control/locus/zoom sliding scale %'.

I'll post the above ideas 1-3 in the right section.


Congratulations with the improvement with Point and Track Manager. '5 STARS'

Keep up the great work & please keep me informed.

rgds Mark

p.s "I wish the governments of the world would listen to the people, like locus does. It's seems like the best way to improve things"

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another reason why i would like to manually set auto zoom levels is speed limits in Australia are quite low compared to other countries. most highway speed limits are only 100km

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I use Locus-Pro mainly on the motorcycle and using vector maps, and I would like the flexibility of the zoom definitions returned (speed range = certain defined zoom). Auto zoom works now, but at 100km/hour want to see more of the big picture, and don't want to fiddle with map changing the zoom, i want to keep my hands on the handlebars. This is also true for other speeds, the old system offered more flexibility and once it was set, it just worked without issue.

Great program! Thanks.

Joe

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sorry do not read whole post

but we have

other countries

other speeds

other uses

other maps

other screens

other units

Thus, it is absolutely important to have your own settings

but config.cfg is not for inexperienced users

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It helps if you config out in the field

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Hmm I'm checking few apps that I have installed on tablet and that serve navigation purpose. I'm sure, all of them use some kind of autozoom. But in none of them, I found any settings for this except enable/disable.


How this is possible? I know there is many users = many tastes. But you think, it's not possible to find any universal solution?


Currently Locus has own settings for autozoom, when you use navigation as car/bike/foot. Different situation is when you use "autozoom" without a navigation (like during normal usage or guiding). In this case is autozoom used like when you use a car.

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wondering if other navigation apps recognize what country your in so they can take into account the local speed limit when calculating auto zoom.

I like locus because it is different and has many options to customize settings the way I need. Can you please re-add this option somehow

please please please

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Does it really matter on country, speed limits, or local units? IMHO there is only one or maybe two parameters - the speed and resolution of screen. The question should be: what area need to see in specified speed.


From my opinion could be auto-zoom little bit zoomed-out for higher speeds, so better way is to try optimize auto-zoom feature than add some settings. I bet that more then 3/4 Locus users doesn't know what zoom-level is.

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Locus stands out in the crowd. Why!

I agree about the two parameters, speed and resolution, plus may-be personal choice. My line of thought, could be auto-zoom little bit more zoomed-out for all speeds.

Can't put feature style of auto-zoom control (locus) or (personalized auto-zoom control) in?

I'll try and re-install v3.2.2 tomorrow (master copy of the version I purchased) and see if I can work out what settings I had. I'll post some screen shots of the settings.

btw, if you think more than 3/4 Locus users don't know what zoom-level is, then maybe should do a video or a pdf doc on instructions, options and functions.

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IMHO

different screen sizes need different scale of resolution to see map writing clearly.

the auto zoom settings that worked for myself before were (see attachment)

00-15km/h=z 16

15-30km/h=z 15

30-60km/h=z 14

60-90km/h=z 13

90-120km/h=z 12

120-more km/h=z? irrelevant in Australia

I've only tested on the following devices

Sony Xperia Z3, I set the map resolution scale to 4.00x

Galaxy S2, map resolution scale was set at 1.00x (box not checked)

Galaxy S4, map resolution scale was set at 2.00x

resolution also might have a lot to do with different map types the device screen types, sizes, settings, brightness ect, as well as eye sight and personal preference.

the extra screen shots were with the Xperia Z3 only to demonstrate different screen resolution with zoom levels 12-16. NOTHING TO DO WITH SPEED

Thanks for your understanding

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I use to show tracks in Locus Pro and I just follow these tracks without navigation.


And on my motorcycle I need an appropriate autozoom profile - which might be different to a profile for cycling or hiking

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I tested the new autozoom for a while. And I really like it because of the smoothness of the zoom.


I would like to have the possibility to change the zoom factors. As Menion wrote, the zoom level is 16/100% @ 100 km/h. On my motorcycle I would prefer 15/100% @ 100 km/h, maybe even 14/100%


Menion wrote:

http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/want-old-settings-of-auto-zoom-level-back


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Which is what currently Locus do. These are hard-coded parameters. First bracer always define speed, second define zoom level (increased by 8 compare to what you see on map).


Bike:


zoom = {0, 15, 30, 100}, {26, 25, 24, 23}


Foot:


zoom = {0, 15, 30, 100}, {27, 26, 25, 24}


Car or undefined:


zoom = {0, 50, 100, 200}, {26, 25, 24, 21}

...


I would like to change the values of "undefined" maybe to:

zoom = {0, 50, 100, 200}, {25, 24, 23, 20}


For a first step it would be great if it could be configurable - maybe in the config.cfg file.

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The faster Auto-Zoom response is a welcome improvement, and the smooth zooming is attractive. However, I too find the preset zoom levels too rigid.


I often use tile maps with the Map Resolution option set to 3.00x, so that I can read street names and exit numbers on my smart phone. I set the old Auto-Zoom levels to just 16, 14, 12, and 10.


At resolution 3.00x, the new Auto-Zoom for driving puts the top of my screen about eight seconds away, too close to be useful. I am usually within sight of the next turn before it appears in the display. I would find Auto-Zoom more useful if it automatically adjusted for the Map Resolution option, so that each speed shows a similar distance on screen regardless of the resolution setting.


In addition, I think there is another problem. From Wolfgang R's comment, I gather that each of the three track recording profiles has its own Auto-Zoom presets. When I create a new profile with default values, does it get the Auto-Zoom presets for Foot, for Cycle, or for Car? I can edit the new profile's other parameters to fit the desired activity, but the default Auto-Zoom presets may be inappropriate. I think we need the ability to edit a profile's Auto-Zoom parameters too. It would require four speeds (zero first) and a corresponding zoom level for each. Profile settings are already pretty technical, so I don't think the Auto-Zoom parameters would be out of place there.

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why did you remove the manually autozoom options, as they were in earlier Locus versions?

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They worked pretty well

Why did you remove this options?

I hope you can give me an answer

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Agree. Would like to see this return. The map zoom levels I usually use do not work well with the pre-set zoom values.

Thank you.

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Nicolai and William, it was removed to simplify overcomplicated settings. Anyway improvements to current system is planned.

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ok this autozoom options were really useful

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For those who like configurable Auto-Zoom, I proposed an alternative with greatly simplified configuration in Relative Auto-Zoom and Configuration. I would be very interested in what people think of it. The description is a bit long, but I spent a lot of time working it out.

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as a touring cyclist, zooming by speed is of no use as the cycling speed doesn't vary like with a car, an alternative would be to increase zoom level when nearing the next way point or navigation command point

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That is a VERY good point !

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I support that topic as well. Auto Zoom needs to rethinked. The customizability of the older Locus Versions was better in my opinion. I would remember the topic: http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/want-old-settings-of-auto-zoom-level-back.

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Good day guys,


after all these years, I have a good news for you.


In latest Beta version is implemented new system for manual configuration of this "auto-zoom" feature. Feedback is of course welcome, so I'll gladly listen that it works as expected/don't work or suggestions to improvements.


Have a nice weekend.

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Hi Menion, great work! Is there any place to manually set this "2 km" parameter for zooming during approaching waypoint? (discussed e.g. here)

I was looking, also in config.cfg, but did not find.

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Good day Qba,

glad you like it!


And configuration of this "point auto-zoom" is not possible for now.

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Hi Menion -- Thank you for reimplementing this feature. It is even more flexible than the older version. The zooming map preview is a nice touch. I didn't get the Beta version quickly enough, so I am trying it out in 3.23.2.


My one suggestion would be to add an entry field for the zoom level. I must have accidentally touched the scale bar on the main map or the preview map, because the zoom level was not shown anywhere on the settings page. It took me several minutes of experimentation to figure out how to select a zoom level before tapping ADD. An explicit entry field would be more obvious. Perhaps a display-only field or a pull-down selector to the right of the Speed entry field, similar to the layout of the ZOOMS list below.


Also, I notice that pinch-zoom works in the preview map, so the scale bar can show an intermediate percentage scale. Presumably that percentage does not go into the ZOOMS list; an explicit display/entry field for the zoom level would help make that clear. (Alternatively, you could disable pinch-zoom in the preview map, but sometimes it's more convenient than the zoom buttons.)

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Hi Menion, good job, Thank you!

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Wow, after two years manual auto zoom settings come back :) *never say never*

and it looks really nice and works very well. The preview map is the best. *thumbs up*


Showing the zoom level before pressing ADD would be nice und maybe a way to show a bigger oder full screen preview.


Did I missed the way for profiles setting? Bike, foot car? How can I set?


Thanks a lot Menion!

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Hi Stephan

> Did I missed the way for profiles setting?

inside "Presets" window click top right on 3-dot button and activate "Advanced mode"

next you´ll find "Edit" after click on 3-dot button on right side of e.g. car.

> edit/Auto-Zoom/do your zoom setting


Wolfgang

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Good evening guys,


@George Snyder: thanks for a valuable feedback! I've improved pinch-zoom & scale, so it should work better next time.


And as @balloni55 suggested, using "Presets" is recommended method how to handle multiple configurations ( not just ) for auto-zoom preference. Enjoy it.

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Configurable Auto Zoom is nearly perfect! I like it. The dynamic during zoom out (during acceleration) is perfect - but you should increase the dynamic during zoom in (during braking). Locus should zoom in faster.

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Hi,

I'm also aware of this and agree that this is complicating life a little when you are approaching some navigation waypoint and needs to decide where to go. I'll look at it.

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Tnx's guys, looking forward to trying it out in the field