I'd like Locus to read back to me Waypoints of a track as I travel round it with Guide On. I'd like to plan the feedback I need in the form of Waypoints.
Guiding "point by point" with a voice announcement
Gathering feedback
For outdoor travel we need guiding "point by point" with a voice announcement. (But no navigation "turn by turn".) Imagine rafting on a mountain river kayaking. We must receive advance warning of the danger. After passing the obstacles need to know the following goal. Would love to hear the name of the point in the distance and the direction of the point. After reaching the point you want to automatically switch to the next point. But throw a paddle and pick up a smartphone for this is not desirable - preferably automatically. There is a similar function - "POI Alert", but there is no sequence of points and automatically switch to the next point.
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Good day Petrov,
may you imagine, how this should work? How you define sequence of points, define distance when you already reached a point and so on?
Why POI Alert is not suitable for you? As it works in exactly same way. It notify on nearest points, not in defined sequence, but just in a way you pass along.
Good day Petrov,
may you imagine, how this should work? How you define sequence of points, define distance when you already reached a point and so on?
Why POI Alert is not suitable for you? As it works in exactly same way. It notify on nearest points, not in defined sequence, but just in a way you pass along.
The river flows only downward. We want to hear accurate information about the next point (not on the nearest point).
How it should work. Outdoor travelers rafting before exploring the documentation about the route - Guide book. It lists all the obstacles. Usually we write on paper yourself this list. In Locus can do this in two ways: 1. Create a track; 2. Create a folder and there create a sequence of points. The "point by point" should report information about each point sequentially.
How to fix the time to automatically switch to the next point - it is necessary to fix two things: on the approach to the point A (parameter) and then through the meter interval T (parameter) seconds away from it on the B (parameter) meters. After this, we can assume that we are already moving to the next point.
The river flows only downward. We want to hear accurate information about the next point (not on the nearest point).
How it should work. Outdoor travelers rafting before exploring the documentation about the route - Guide book. It lists all the obstacles. Usually we write on paper yourself this list. In Locus can do this in two ways: 1. Create a track; 2. Create a folder and there create a sequence of points. The "point by point" should report information about each point sequentially.
How to fix the time to automatically switch to the next point - it is necessary to fix two things: on the approach to the point A (parameter) and then through the meter interval T (parameter) seconds away from it on the B (parameter) meters. After this, we can assume that we are already moving to the next point.
PS It is possible to analyze even the direction of movement (to the point or away from point)
PS It is possible to analyze even the direction of movement (to the point or away from point)
Also likely to be a useful additional idea - save in Locus connection between point of track and POI, when we create a new POI from the track edit menu. This is important, because in the point of the track not add details otherwise.
Also likely to be a useful additional idea - save in Locus connection between point of track and POI, when we create a new POI from the track edit menu. This is important, because in the point of the track not add details otherwise.
Rafting - only one example among many. Other kinds of Outdoor travelers also need to "point by point" guiding.
Furthermore, using the "point by point" voice guiding and connection between point of track and POI, can offer an interesting additional functionality - audio guide! To do this, play an audio file from the PRI. Imagine riding a bike and a car, when voice tell interesting details of places and objects that you pass. Moreover, the use of "point by point" lets start the story next point advance, even before she came in. All this automatically - hands free.
Rafting - only one example among many. Other kinds of Outdoor travelers also need to "point by point" guiding.
Furthermore, using the "point by point" voice guiding and connection between point of track and POI, can offer an interesting additional functionality - audio guide! To do this, play an audio file from the PRI. Imagine riding a bike and a car, when voice tell interesting details of places and objects that you pass. Moreover, the use of "point by point" lets start the story next point advance, even before she came in. All this automatically - hands free.
Hi Petrov,
A lot of ideas here. I think it is becoming very hot now in Praha ;-) Probably there is already an app that can help you to realise your wish. Point by point, sequentially in the correct track order using TTS. After passing waypoint it will tell you how many meters away from next waypoint. Before reaching that next point you have a prewarning expressing the Waypoint info. When reaching that point, again you will hear thatWaypoint information. But keep your IP67 phone above the water to receive gps signal ;-)
You need : A track and the information Waypoints.
Waypoint preparation: Condition to function properly ! Very important !
(free) floating Waypoints has to appearin a 6m corridor (+and- 3m) around the track !
- Or only use Waypoint (free) name. (name = your warnings).
- Or use a compact Waypoint Name (serial number for example) and put the warning info in the Waypoint
field: "Description".
Android App: "Track Navigator." I only tested version TTS English !
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.thunkmonkey.tracknav&hl=en
TTS and onscreen information.
- Expressing the Waypoint Name when there is no "Description" field info or,
- Expressing the Waypoint "Description"info field when available.
Waypoints (poi) can be produced in Locus. but correct precise placement is important !
Edit Waypointname, and or optional also Waypoint "Description" field.
Problem: Merging the .gpx track and Waypoints into one .gpx file !
This merging can not be done easily by Locus. There is a workaround, too complicated and the .gpx Waypoint
'Description' field is lost during such operation.
Preparing, producing a merged track/Waypoints is possible using personal pc. Windows program: GPX editor.
Petrov if this helps you, pse later some report here.
0709 - Willy.
Hi Petrov,
A lot of ideas here. I think it is becoming very hot now in Praha ;-) Probably there is already an app that can help you to realise your wish. Point by point, sequentially in the correct track order using TTS. After passing waypoint it will tell you how many meters away from next waypoint. Before reaching that next point you have a prewarning expressing the Waypoint info. When reaching that point, again you will hear thatWaypoint information. But keep your IP67 phone above the water to receive gps signal ;-)
You need : A track and the information Waypoints.
Waypoint preparation: Condition to function properly ! Very important !
(free) floating Waypoints has to appearin a 6m corridor (+and- 3m) around the track !
- Or only use Waypoint (free) name. (name = your warnings).
- Or use a compact Waypoint Name (serial number for example) and put the warning info in the Waypoint
field: "Description".
Android App: "Track Navigator." I only tested version TTS English !
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.thunkmonkey.tracknav&hl=en
TTS and onscreen information.
- Expressing the Waypoint Name when there is no "Description" field info or,
- Expressing the Waypoint "Description"info field when available.
Waypoints (poi) can be produced in Locus. but correct precise placement is important !
Edit Waypointname, and or optional also Waypoint "Description" field.
Problem: Merging the .gpx track and Waypoints into one .gpx file !
This merging can not be done easily by Locus. There is a workaround, too complicated and the .gpx Waypoint
'Description' field is lost during such operation.
Preparing, producing a merged track/Waypoints is possible using personal pc. Windows program: GPX editor.
Petrov if this helps you, pse later some report here.
0709 - Willy.
Thank you, Willy! I will definitely try "Track Navigator" too.
About Locus:
"Problem: Merging the .gpx track and Waypoints into one .gpx file!"
I think that there is no need to merge into one file. Free Waypoint could contain a link to this track and number of track point in its name or in a different field. Locus should be able to find by this link a corresponding free point in pre-specified folder when it does guide track.
There is also a simple way: Folder Name of POI = Name of the track; Point name in this folder = number of points that track. Locus easily find such points.
Thank you, Willy! I will definitely try "Track Navigator" too.
About Locus:
"Problem: Merging the .gpx track and Waypoints into one .gpx file!"
I think that there is no need to merge into one file. Free Waypoint could contain a link to this track and number of track point in its name or in a different field. Locus should be able to find by this link a corresponding free point in pre-specified folder when it does guide track.
There is also a simple way: Folder Name of POI = Name of the track; Point name in this folder = number of points that track. Locus easily find such points.
NEW suggestion simplified.
Follow track by TBT AND Guidance.
Ready to go attached in a gpx navigation track.
https://studio.youtube.com/video/uIhq4-DgEaU/edit?o=U
Shaping vs. Via trkpt point result:
TTS @ trkpt 5 by shaping: "track at 9" (compact) or "track at 9 o'clock"
TTS @ trkpt 5 by via: "track at 9 - Unpaved"
NEW suggestion simplified.
Follow track by TBT AND Guidance.
Ready to go attached in a gpx navigation track.
https://studio.youtube.com/video/uIhq4-DgEaU/edit?o=U
Shaping vs. Via trkpt point result:
TTS @ trkpt 5 by shaping: "track at 9" (compact) or "track at 9 o'clock"
TTS @ trkpt 5 by via: "track at 9 - Unpaved"
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