Nearest points change Position reference

Hi Menion,

I've seen and tried it. It works. For me it's kind of superfluous, as I actually always want to sort around the map centre. But it doesn't bother me either, others might find it useful.

Edit: Unfortunately, the setting is not retained. Every time I select "Distance", I have to choose again between "my location" and "map centre".

Also, I don't know if it's good to be able to make this setting in two different places. Now here (only for tracks) and in the general settings (new under "Miscellaneous").

I can't test this at the moment because the quick filters "neatest points" and "nearest tracks" currently ignore the "cursor/map centre" setting and always sort by the GPS position. I have already written about this in the forum.

I can't think of any reason why this option should even exist. "Map centre" can always apply. Normally the cursor is on the GPS position anyway, and when I search elsewhere, I do it deliberately. If I'm at home and go to Rome on the map, for example, to plan my holiday, I don't see any point in having points/tracks sorted around my location. But maybe I'm missing something.

Hey Menion,

I took a look at it too. My comments:

* Distance 'From my location' and 'From map center' are reversed. So if you click on one, you get the other option.

* The button 'Nearest points' remains 'From my location' and ignores the settings. Both of the filter as well as in Miscellanous

I would like to say again that 'Map screen cursor' as default is much more intuitive. Because in the mind you are where the cursor is and not where the physical location is. For example, if I move the cursor to a vacation spot, my reference location is there.

From my point of view, the option could even be dropped completely in favor of 'Map Screen cursor' because it is easy to move the cursor anywhere, also to the GPS location.

Is there a case I'm not seeing?

I can't agree, sorry guys.

What is perfectly clear is where I'm at now! This is a well-known location.

Map center? It may change on the background. Imagine the active "Hold map center".

I also believe that new users expect "my location" to be the most important place.

So

• I do not plan "map center" as default sorting location
• "Nearest points" and "nearest tracks" shortcuts are relative to the last known GPS location; it is not a mistake
• distance & azimuth arrow is also relative to last known GPS location, also not a mistake

Hmmmm, the criteria for decision shpuld start with the PURPOSE (i.e. why I am using a function in the first place).

And here BOTH scenarios (GPS, map centers) can happen, both for very good reasons:

- after 10 km uphill you are sitting to have a rest, a drink, and thoughts about what is doable next

- that can start from where you are, but also you may remember some place 20 km away for the next rest and then some POIs around to decide for the final legs of your exercise

- BOTH can happen. I do not know what is more frequent, you do not know, nobody knows.

- hence the choice has to be with the user

- I do agree that the DEFAULT should be GPS

- the alternative, switching off GPS to do a valid look around the area of interest is just weird, right?

So far my 2c :-)

Cheers

Michael

This is a very technical approach. And there may be good technical reasons.
What I stated is a user story, from my perspective. And I'm sure you would find technical solutions.
At the end it seems to be your decision. At least it has this sound. But thank you for asking :)

"I also believe that new users expect "my location" to be the most important place."
I am a user, and just told you my expectation, where my important place is. It is what I see on the screen, where the crossair refers to. This is where is my mind an my attention.
Not physical me, operating the divice somewhere else.

I respect your opinion, Menion, even if I see it differently.

But: "Nearest points" and "nearest tracks" shortcuts are relative to the last known GPS location; it is not a mistake

In the latest release version, it definitely works that the nearest tracks or points are sorted according to the map centre if this is set in the settings for default search/sort location. I still have the version on the old device and can see it there. What else is the setting for default search/sort location for if it is now ignored in the new beta?

Ultimately, I don't care whether "my location" is the default if you can change it in the settings. But I would also like to be able to sort by the current cursor position with the shortcut buttons. Just like it is possible in 4.28.3. This setting is ignored in the beta! And that is a mistake!

See screenshot

I still believe and hope that this is a misunderstanding. I'm not talking about the default sorting location after a Locus installation, but about the individual settings that can be made in the settings>miscellaneous. Hence an example:

I want to look at my points in and around Karlsruhe. I go to Karlsruhe on the map, the cursor is on the railway station, for example. I open My Library and start the search. In 4.28.3, just click on "nearest points" and I get all the points sorted by distance from the railway station.

Now in beta 4.28.3.1, I click on "nearest points" and all the points around my location in Berlin are listed. This is completely nonsensical. I now have to set the sorting at the bottom according to distance (map centre) and also activate a filter so that only the points around my cursor position in Karssruhe are listed. That's several clicks each time, where previously a single click was enough.

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As a user, I expect the search to take place where my map currently is. And that is always the center of the map. And if I want to move the map and search there, I have to switch off Hold map anyway. So no setting would be necessary. The map center can cover both positions.

To separate recorded and planned tracks you can use the filter.

That's the one I took. Quick filter “ last recorded”

Sorry, I meant the individual filter. Under "tracks" you can choose recorded or/and other tracks