Show only selected POI

freischneider shared this idea 2 years ago
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There are already a lot of POIs and if I have my way there could be even more. More categories are conceivable.
But the overview on the map is already no longer good. When I'm cycling, I only need certain POIs. Or if I'm hiking, I need other POIs. Some POIs I don't need at all. That's why it would be good if I could choose which POIs I want to see. Selection of whole category but also under category, as o POI type.
The whole thing for online POI and offline.
and if I can now attach the whole thing to a preset, that would be brilliant. So I can choose different ones for hiking as for cycling or geocaching.

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Garmin Basecamp has a similar unified system. LM has more confusing POI control - some selected from the map theme, others selected by POI search. This can result in POI duplicates - same POI displayed twice on the map.

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Yes, especially for online/offline lopoi it's crucial that we have control over displayed categories.

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Yes, a control of which POIs are visible has been missing for a long time. As far as I have read, Menion wants to change the offline POIs to match the online ones. Perhaps this task can be carried out at the same time.
Somewhere there was also the idea to show the offline POIs only when there is no internet connection. Then we wouldn't have the problem with the duplicates.

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@Tobse - "Then we wouldn't have the problem with the duplicates." - but each theme has independent control over which POI (from .svg file) it wants to display, for example, some XML

<rule e="any" k="wood|leaf_type" v="deciduous|broadleaved">
<area src="file:patterns/wood_deciduous.svg" symbol-width="40" />
</rule>
so not sure how this would be "overridden" by Locus to avoid potential duplicates?

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@Tobse: I think you mean this idea with the internet connection. https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8436.msg74458#msg74458
This could also be implemented here but only for LoPOI. Not for OAM POI. Otherwise you can no longer display the OAM POI with an online connection.
Example:
I am online
Online LoPOI activated.
Offline LoPOI deactivated (because of the duplicate)
Now the online connection is interrupted. Locus would automatically switch to the offline LoPOI. As soon as I have an online connection again, Offline LoPOI is deactivated again.

So I have ensured that the LoPOI is always displayed.

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@freischneider: yes, that's exactly what I meant. Thank you
Your objection makes sense. That's exactly how it could be implemented.

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Migrating from LocusMap Classic, I'm really missing that feature. Previously I could add 100 points of any category around my current position which was very helpful. In LocusMap 4 only all or no LoPoints can be displayed (there's no filtering/selection possible) - this makes the LoPoints feature absolutely unusable for me now since there are just too many and completely irrelevant icons :-(

It would be a great start to have the 'highlighted lopoints' separate from the 'all lopoints' feature. That way I could easily just display the lopoints I'm interested in and in rare occations enable all points. This would already cover 95% of my usecases.

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I feel the same way.

I would also appreciate the option to separate "all lopoints" and "highlighted lopoints." When I'm searching for something, I only want to display specific items, and the "highlighted lopoints" option would be perfect since they are highlighted and easier to see.

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There are now two further ideas on this topic.

https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/38378-show-only-highlighted-lopoints-on-map

https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/39053-lopoints-filtern

The best solution would be to introduce a filter option for normal LoPoi. This would allow me to select what is displayed. Locus should remember this filter. When I turn LoPoi off and on again, the filter should be active again.

The highlighted LoPoi should also work with LoPoi (normal) turned off. This would allow me to display highlighted LoPoi independently of LoPoi, with and without filters.

Another advantage would be if I could save the filter from normal LoPoi in presets.

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This setting is only for highlighting.

To display them, you'd have to create a new setting. I'd like that too. Because there are LoPoi I never want to see.

But There are LoPoi that I would like to display but not highlight.

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I'm confused - compare my enabled/ disabled maps - the POI are not displayed when Toilets are off. It's not just highlighting, its making all available POI visible. Am I missing your point?

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Hi Andrew,

At the moment, there is no option to display only the selected LoPoints category. You can only highlight it and all other LoPoints stay on the map. Or you can hide all LoPoints. The request to add filtering of LoPoints on the map is here: https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/33933-show-only-selected-poi or here: https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/38378-show-only-highlighted-lopoints-on-map. You can vote for them.

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My screen cap has been lost in the merge ;-( But OK - understand. The behavior of Map Content Panel > LoPoints is somewhat confusing then. Maybe an extra slider always to the top of the list - "display all". If turned off, only the enabled categories are displayed. Voted. Maybe those 2 topics can be merged too.

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Hi,

option to display only the highlighted LoPoints will be added in the next app (Beta) version.

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Great! :)

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But how will they be displayed with that option?

If the highlighted POIs are shown as those little tooltips right now they cover more of the map. For people who want less clutter on the map, it achieves the opposite.

If they are shown in the regular style it would be kind of useful, but there is no hierarchical list of POIs. It would be very tedious to collect all wanted POIs. You'd have to guess the name of the POI category and see if it exists.

A solution would be to have a hierarchical structure of POIs where the user can deselect all unwanted POIs, e.g. everything related to car or bike infrastructure when hiking.
But the feasibility depends on how the POIs are organized internally.

But this solution also doesn't really help with the original idea to have a set of different POIs per activity. When switching from one activity to another, the user would have to scroll through the highlighted POIs and toggle wanted and unwanted ones.

A solution would be to have profiles which save the displayed POI categories and can be switched easily.

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It's a step in the right direction. Thanks, menion.

You can select and deselect the highlighted POIs. You should be able to select and deselect the regular POIs the same way.

Because there are POIs I never need—I'd like to be able to deselect those.

I’d like to have regular POIs on the map, but only the ones I actually need. When I’m doing something specific, I’ll use the highlighted POIs—for example, when looking for a parking spot, or when hiking… castles, caves, waterfalls.

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I agree with freischneider, so what about this?5fb93a7c2d32c0d1a8cfb6da749f99d0ea48aeae513a544d2ce291f44087a6c1

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Hi guys,

I'm sorry, but all these solutions are simply overcomplicated. I understand your needs, but we really do not want to introduce some kind of selectable list of LoPoints that will be visible in certain theme. "Maps + LoPoints" belong together and are fine-tunned together and it should stay like this.

Since last two years, when this topic was wrote, a lot has changed on the background. Placement of LoPoints is smarter, they should not cover the map too much now, their priorities were many times improved etc.

If you still find some categories of LoPoints to have too big priority (are visible in too low zoom levels or cover any other more important LoPoints on the map), let us know and we will look at it.

Use "Highlight on the map" options to really make some specific categories visible a lot better.

Thanks for understanding.

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fair enough but I can't see the value of showing every available POI on the map when I just want to see one particular category - apologies - same map below but I could resize the maps so equal area for more valid visual comparison - lazy

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If anything I'd say the way it is handled right now is oversimplified. Which is surprising for an app that is so feature-rich otherwise.

The all-or nothing approach assumes that everyone is interested in every kind of POI or none. I try to think of any other app or website that has this type of POIs and not a way to select categories to either hide or show. I can't think of any.

I don't understand why a list of categories would be so bad. It is the perfect representation for such data. Right now the LoPoints are obviously sorted into categories, but they are hidden from the user. The only interface to them is the search in LoPoints unless I missed it. And there the user has to guess the name of a category without knowing which exists.
There are even sub categories. There is a category "Emergency points", the content is also highlighted when selecting "Emergency and health". Obviously there is a hierarchy, but is it hidden from the user.
There is also a category "hiking and cycling", but again, no indication what is supposed to be in it.

Talking about covering the map. The attached screen shot shows my town. Granted, the LoPoints icon size is at 150%, magnify all maps @ 250%, but that is simply needed to see any POIs when using LM outdoors on the smartphone. The display obviously doesn't take this under consideration. The map is almost completely hidden behind bicycle parking locations and doctors. But even with smaller POIs the map is covered in bicycle stands I have zero interested in, even when cycling. When using highlights, it just gets worse.

And to show that my settings are not completely unreasonable I attached a screenshot how it would look on a hike in the mountains.

Luckily in rural areas it is much less of of issue, because there are less POIs. And this is where I use LM. In well mapped urban areas, the POI is display is useless to me, see screenshot. There is no setting where the display is usable

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eg. compare to Garmin BaseCamp or Google Earth for an explicit list of categories. Categories & sub-categories - Locus used to have this also, so there was no need to "guess" which ones existed.

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and take it a step further - the current set of enabled visible point categories could even be linked to the Preset system - the point categories I want to see while walking/ running/ cycling/ driving/ route planning are generally different

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This is already defined in the proposal. My question is whether this change will automatically mark the proposal as completed.

It's an improvement, but it has little to do with the original proposal.

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