Alert in case of crash (bike, not app)
I sold my Garmin edge 820 and returned to Locus. Locus + few other apps in my opinion covers most functionality of Edge 820.
I miss one important function that I didn't found here in "Ideas" - Alert in case of crash.
I see this this way:
When device "feel" high stress (from g-sensor) or weird side position, and in few seconds speed drops to zero, locus show pop-up windows with alert which user can cancel in 30-60 seconds by long press of special button. If user didn’t react - device will send message to predefined contacts with alert and current position of user.
In this video - I show how it works in Garmin (As You see - device will also generate sound alert)
My wife and daughter also will be really grateful If You consider this option :)
Have a nice day
I like this idea 
I think It would be also nice features for hikers and runners.
The device could sense if someone stopped and didn't move for a while. I suggest get moving data from accelerometer not from GPS.
Please give me feedback what do You think about this, If this is possible to handle in near future
I think It would be also nice features for hikers and runners.
The device could sense if someone stopped and didn't move for a while. I suggest get moving data from accelerometer not from GPS.
Please give me feedback what do You think about this, If this is possible to handle in near future
I think this is a great idea ... for another app.
This has nothing to do with maps, right?
I think this is a great idea ... for another app.
This has nothing to do with maps, right?
It will be nice to have all necessary features in one application, and locus is the closest app to be a perfect companion in any activity.
You never know if application in background it's still alive.
You can also make of this some marketing stuff like "we care about safety" etc....
I think that this would be unique and valuable features.
It will be nice to have all necessary features in one application, and locus is the closest app to be a perfect companion in any activity.
You never know if application in background it's still alive.
You can also make of this some marketing stuff like "we care about safety" etc....
I think that this would be unique and valuable features.
Good day Pawel, guys,
It is hard to say if such idea belongs directly to Locus Map or not. My personal opinion is that it does not. Main reason is, that crucial feature on which depend your life, should work always, no matter what happen. And trust me, it is easier to keep small separate application alive on Android, then quite big system like Locus Map. Also in case of any problem, crash in Locus, separate application won't be affected.
And last and from my point most important, and also partial answer of this feature request ... such feature should work as completely independent system no matter which map/travel/navigation app you like to use. So from my point of view, this is really really nice idea for separate small application, that may get nice attention on Google Play (btw. such app really does not yet exists? ) and that may be used with Locus Map, but also with other different applications ( or completely separately ).
I'm not directly declining it, because in case of huge number of votes, it should be nice to promote this idea as an alternative evening work for Android developers ( or as a nice school project for a students of university ). Hope you will agree ;).
Good day Pawel, guys,
It is hard to say if such idea belongs directly to Locus Map or not. My personal opinion is that it does not. Main reason is, that crucial feature on which depend your life, should work always, no matter what happen. And trust me, it is easier to keep small separate application alive on Android, then quite big system like Locus Map. Also in case of any problem, crash in Locus, separate application won't be affected.
And last and from my point most important, and also partial answer of this feature request ... such feature should work as completely independent system no matter which map/travel/navigation app you like to use. So from my point of view, this is really really nice idea for separate small application, that may get nice attention on Google Play (btw. such app really does not yet exists? ) and that may be used with Locus Map, but also with other different applications ( or completely separately ).
I'm not directly declining it, because in case of huge number of votes, it should be nice to promote this idea as an alternative evening work for Android developers ( or as a nice school project for a students of university ). Hope you will agree ;).
I found only 2 or 3 application, but very poor quality with no hope to be improved (You guys know how to make awesome, stable, ergonomic software that's why I'm here with You :)). They only get data from g-sensor - not combined it with speed, so they send alert when You are still on bike riding on rough terrene or just after jump.
There is only one close to what i talk about https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.bikecomputer
Of course this application is far away behind Locus in many aspects - even when we consider only bike computer function (no ANT+, a lot of function missing)
I didn’t test it yet but I will do It this month. (This application also request period payment (near 50 Euro per Year or near 6 Euro per month) There is no option to one-time payment as I prefer. This is not big problem but I think it's quite expensive for only one useful feature)
Of course I believe You, that it's better to make another small application only for this feature - You are professional, I'm just a user, but maybe You will keep it in mind and create such a app with best quality like Locus and a little bit cheaper than application above ;)
I found only 2 or 3 application, but very poor quality with no hope to be improved (You guys know how to make awesome, stable, ergonomic software that's why I'm here with You :)). They only get data from g-sensor - not combined it with speed, so they send alert when You are still on bike riding on rough terrene or just after jump.
There is only one close to what i talk about https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.bikecomputer
Of course this application is far away behind Locus in many aspects - even when we consider only bike computer function (no ANT+, a lot of function missing)
I didn’t test it yet but I will do It this month. (This application also request period payment (near 50 Euro per Year or near 6 Euro per month) There is no option to one-time payment as I prefer. This is not big problem but I think it's quite expensive for only one useful feature)
Of course I believe You, that it's better to make another small application only for this feature - You are professional, I'm just a user, but maybe You will keep it in mind and create such a app with best quality like Locus and a little bit cheaper than application above ;)
Info:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tinkerpete.movetracker&rdid=com.tinkerpete.movetracker
Map display uses your compatible existing (Locus) Vector maps ! Free app ! 0 $
Out of curiosity some time ago I tested "Movetracker" app with that very simple emergency alarm system.
No phone movement generates SMS (or mail) alarm transmission. Genial by simplicity.
No move:
1. Alarm timer counts up towards ( free time set) audio alarm, prewarning the user.
2. If no user reaction, some time later (free time set span) effectively sends the SMS (mail) alarm.
In Movetracker app display: See all necessary easy monitoring info. (simple)
Monitor timer counter (sec) towards (set) prealarm (move = reset) and further towards (user time set) SMS alarm tirgger/generation.
My test ISSUE !
A too high sensitivity of the internal (move) sensor phone dedector ( Setting: Rough sensitivity.)
Max volume of the prealarm sound (pre warning user) caused an up counter reset to zero. (looping)
Resulted in no SMS (mail) alarm transmission.
Low phone volume set of the pre alarm warning sound solves the problem and showed the usability of this simple system.
But more (better) universal sensor sensitivity tuning ( for different phones/sensors) is necessary !
Testphone: Samsung Ace 2.
A future Locus extra complication problem if (ever) integrated ?
Seems during "screen off" some phone sensors are not activ ?
Simple easy fool proof robust Locus implementation possible ?
hmm...
Info:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tinkerpete.movetracker&rdid=com.tinkerpete.movetracker
Map display uses your compatible existing (Locus) Vector maps ! Free app ! 0 $
Out of curiosity some time ago I tested "Movetracker" app with that very simple emergency alarm system.
No phone movement generates SMS (or mail) alarm transmission. Genial by simplicity.
No move:
1. Alarm timer counts up towards ( free time set) audio alarm, prewarning the user.
2. If no user reaction, some time later (free time set span) effectively sends the SMS (mail) alarm.
In Movetracker app display: See all necessary easy monitoring info. (simple)
Monitor timer counter (sec) towards (set) prealarm (move = reset) and further towards (user time set) SMS alarm tirgger/generation.
My test ISSUE !
A too high sensitivity of the internal (move) sensor phone dedector ( Setting: Rough sensitivity.)
Max volume of the prealarm sound (pre warning user) caused an up counter reset to zero. (looping)
Resulted in no SMS (mail) alarm transmission.
Low phone volume set of the pre alarm warning sound solves the problem and showed the usability of this simple system.
But more (better) universal sensor sensitivity tuning ( for different phones/sensors) is necessary !
Testphone: Samsung Ace 2.
A future Locus extra complication problem if (ever) integrated ?
Seems during "screen off" some phone sensors are not activ ?
Simple easy fool proof robust Locus implementation possible ?
hmm...
I fully support the idea and the desire for crash detection!
As I collapsed three times just two days ago - luckily at home - and only regained consciousness thanks to my wife's actions (I would probably have woken up on my own at some point... the only question is when), such crash detection with emergency notification would be more than desirable!
Exactly as described - GPS AND motion sensor should be the trigger if you don't stop the action within x seconds!
I fully support the idea and the desire for crash detection!
As I collapsed three times just two days ago - luckily at home - and only regained consciousness thanks to my wife's actions (I would probably have woken up on my own at some point... the only question is when), such crash detection with emergency notification would be more than desirable!
Exactly as described - GPS AND motion sensor should be the trigger if you don't stop the action within x seconds!
There is already an app for this. We don't have to reinvent the wheel twice. Since it runs in the background, we don't need it in Locus.
If it is used by more users, you can integrate the app access in the sidebar.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.gpsbodyguardapp&hl=de
Maybe there are better ones. Just test several.
There is already an app for this. We don't have to reinvent the wheel twice. Since it runs in the background, we don't need it in Locus.
If it is used by more users, you can integrate the app access in the sidebar.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.gpsbodyguardapp&hl=de
Maybe there are better ones. Just test several.
Unfortunately, the mentioned APP is not compatible with current mobile phones....
Unfortunately, the mentioned APP is not compatible with current mobile phones....
After a long search, I have now found what I hope is a really good alternative. It is a combination of crash sensor and APP:
Sensor: https://cratoni.com/en/produkt/crash-sensor/
APP: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cratoni2
I was able to successfully install the app on my Samsung S22Ultra with Android 14. No registration/login is required, no additional costs! Three phone numbers of emergency contacts can be specified - exactly what I wanted!
Sad that three other sensors (Specialised, Fischer, Uvex Toscen) are still offered, but the APP required for them does not work! The APP for Toscen is still in the APP Store, but you are referred to the successor ALECK. You have to register and can then only specify contacts, but all of them must have the ALECK app active for this - useless. Other APPs refused to work at all (not compatible with my phone...). An app that only reacts to "no movement" is also useless. It should reliably detect a crash - MY crash! And not when the bike falls over or I simply put it down or put it down....
After a long search, I have now found what I hope is a really good alternative. It is a combination of crash sensor and APP:
Sensor: https://cratoni.com/en/produkt/crash-sensor/
APP: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cratoni2
I was able to successfully install the app on my Samsung S22Ultra with Android 14. No registration/login is required, no additional costs! Three phone numbers of emergency contacts can be specified - exactly what I wanted!
Sad that three other sensors (Specialised, Fischer, Uvex Toscen) are still offered, but the APP required for them does not work! The APP for Toscen is still in the APP Store, but you are referred to the successor ALECK. You have to register and can then only specify contacts, but all of them must have the ALECK app active for this - useless. Other APPs refused to work at all (not compatible with my phone...). An app that only reacts to "no movement" is also useless. It should reliably detect a crash - MY crash! And not when the bike falls over or I simply put it down or put it down....
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