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Deleting Track Doesn't Remove It From Map?

Steve L shared this question ago

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Hello,

As said above an imported visible track is NOT removed from the map when it is deleted (removed) from the track database (Data page).

To get the track to go away you have to force close the app. This is completely non-intuitive behavior which I think should be fixed. If I delete a track from the database I would expect it to also be removed from the map display.

Thanks,

Steve

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0709 ●

Test by Locus Version 3.44.1 See attachment.

Or the identical track was imported as "Display only" ?

Delete by "remove temporary items" function.

You can add this button into the function panel.

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Petr Voldan ●

Dear Steve,

as 0709 mentioned the deleted track (deleted from internal database) should be removed also from the map. Would you please create video documenting this issue - if you don't know the right app, I would suggest AZ Screen Recorder for screen recording: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hecorat.screenrecorder.free

Thank you

Petr

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Steve L ●

Petr,

It may take a while for me to get and figure out how to us the screen recorder. I have lots on my plate right now.

I couldn't really see what is going on in 0709's video. I am deleting the track directly from the folder in the database manager with the checked box and trash can icon.

While messing with this I just noticed that after deleting last week's route that the route is gone but the 3 imported and connected rest stop waypoints were NOT removed and are still visible on the map. Go figure! Somehow they must have gotten disconnected from the GPX in the database.

I am attaching the GPX from Last week's ride for you to experiment with. BTW, these are generated with RWGPS.

Thanks,

Steve

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Petr Voldan ●

Dear Steve,

thank you for the GPX file. I can see that the file contains one track and three independent points. I guess that you imported them separately and the points are still in your point database (Menu > Points) because you deleted only the track.

However, there is an option in the import dialog "Merge points with imported tracks" that adds the stand-alone points into imported tracks as tracks waypoints. Such waypoints will be deleted together with the track.

BR Petr

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Steve L ●

Petr,

The merge points option was used as far as I remember. For a track that contains points Locus should DEFAULT to including (associating) them to the imported track.

This is what is so FRUSTRATING about the Locus UI. It doesn't guide the user at all and allows a near INFINITE number of options and likely user mistakes. Go look at your reviews to confirm this. I am not the only one having this horrible UI experience.

I did go look at those points and they did get imported into one of my tracks folders. HOWEVER, the point shows that it LINKS with the RWGPS route that it came from. So is that LINK saying that the point is supposed to be merged?

Thanks,

Steve

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Steve

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Steve L ●

Petr,

Well, I just tried to duplicate the original issue but mysteriously couldn't. Then I remembered that the line style of the route was different and I had also been messing around with the guidance line style issue.

So here is what I think happened. Guidance must have been on when the route was deleted yet the route continued to be displayed on the map after deletion. As soon as I turn Guide OFF the route is removed from the map. This behavior doesn't make sense and is REALLY confusing! Once a track is deleted it should COMPLETELY go away whether nav/guidance in on or not!

Going back to the Points issue... I re-imported the same route that I sent you that had the 3 way points end up in the points. This time I couldn't see the waypoints on the map. I finally found them as a small almost invisible black dot (apparently no associated icon). However, when they were in the points database they showed up with the "I" (information ) icon. So why is there an icon available in Points but not in Tracks?

Thanks,

Steve

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0709 ●

Mini Black dots in Locus map view by RWGPS imported gpx file.

This had already been discussed before.

Reference should be made in the first instance to this already existing idea proposal !

https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/configurable-default-waypoint-icon

The actual Locus default Icon is still not free to choose until further notice!

But the above idea is still open for a realization! TO VOTE !!!!

However, if you DO separate the RWGPS waypoints from the track, the separated RWGPS waypoints end up in a specific waypoint map (of your choice) into the Points Database.

You can then also do whatever you want with it. You can then for example, completely freely choose that all waypoints present in a folder are presented with a freely selectable uniform folder Icon display.

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Steve L ●

Yes, I know that we have been here before. It is interesting that for all of it's nearly infinite configurability Locus is inconsistent in how it handles point icons.

I just figured out how to do what you suggested. We'll see how it works out. The main drawback is that the points will remain once the track has been deleted. Eventually that may require a manual cleanup. Until then the rest stop waypoints will just grow as different tracks are loaded and then deleted.

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0709 ●

@ Steve.

Correct, by separating you can add (many) such RWGPS rest stop points into a growing "RWGPS rest stop" folder. It does allow you to display or delete any such imported point by free point (filter) selection.

As the RWGPS gpx example file(s) do no contain associated navigation waypoints there is no operational problem to separate the gpx track and free positioned gpx waypoints into a (free) points folder.

When the gpx file however contains both a track inclusive associated navigation waypoints, AND free positioned information waypoints you can not separate track and points anymore as otherwise the navigation functionality is lost.

That is why I do promote a navigation method by gpx rte(route) whereby the navigation info is directly integrated into the individual (rtept) routepoints.

Adding multiple free positioned information waypoints into that same gpx file is possible without any negative consequence for the navigation function.

Free off track positioned waypoint examples. Rest stops / bicycle repair shops / or any other interesting information point located nearby the (rte) route path to go.

Such direct route method allows the separation of the (all) free positioned waypoints contained in the gpx file, without thereby loosing any navigation functionality.

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Petr Voldan ●

Dear Steve,

> As soon as I turn Guide OFF the route is removed from the map.

Yes, Locus works in this way and the question if it's correct behavior or not. Locus maintains the "routing track" maybe a little bit in a different way. You can, for example, edit the navigation orders or save the computed navigation and use it later.

The small black dots - this depicts the waypoints of the route. So the points are parts of the route (you selected option "Merge with the track" during import)

The "i" icon - is a default icon for a new stand-alone point (The option "Merge with the track" wasn't selected during import) and points were imported independently on the track.

I can understand that UI can be complicated due to dozens of settings. On the other side, these settings can help in a situation like this. Basically the GPX you sent me doesn't properly define the points where the points aren't included with the track. But the settings "Merge with the track" can fix it and Locus has dozens of settings that can be helpful for a specific situation or use-cases

Best regards

Petr

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