I'd like the Guiding to guide to the start of the route, not to the nearest point.

Good day Goosien,

to be true, I'm not 100% sure, that I understand your idea.

Anyway from a title, it's quite clear that you want to disable automatic selecting of point, where Locus guide you, right?

For this already exists settings, check http://docs.locusmap.eu/doku.php?id=manual:settings:guiding - auto-select best point.

I've found that option and that in theory is fine for getting to the start of the route, but then I still need the ability to loose the route, then find it again later and for the guiding to pick up from this new position. That would mean having the automatic selection off until I near the route, then turn it back on again from that point onwards.

Consider a route going simply North to South and I start recording about half way down the route, but miles to the West. Currently auto would pick a point mid-way down the route. I want it to pick the first point and guide me North East (not auto). When I get to the route, maybe even if I'm not quite at the Northern tip, but close enough to it, like in the range the left route alarm would go off at, I want it to then guide me South down the route. If I leave the route South East, for some miles, then come back South West and join the route much further South than I left it I want it to continue from that new point, and that would be auto on. So, auto off until I get there, then auto on for the rest of the route.

Or even if I don't travel all the way to the Northern tip, just travel to the route, guiding starting from that point would be fine. I just don't want guiding to pick a point on the route until I get to it, potentially missing the first half of the route, then when I get to it, it can auto pick just fine.

I suppose this would be a third option- Auto Pick 1. on, 2. off, 3. on when reach route.

I also see that Nearest Point would help me currently (press it when I get to the start), but I'd rather option 3 so I can set it off and forget it, travel to then continue along the route.

Understand ...

I'm anyway worried, that

1. your request is very specific to what you use. And I'm not sure how many people want's to navigate in same way as you.
2. another option should highly increase complexity of already complicated guiding system in Locus.
   
3. what you want is already quite simply possible, just with a small additional work. Most useful by me, should be adding a "Guide to" button to right panel and then start guiding using this button to place where you want start (start of your track) and then with guiding along line, continue as usually.

So generally, I understand your idea and agree it may be useful in certain situations, but I'm not sure, that require work and increased complexity will bring benefit for more people.

Thanks, I agree with a lot of what you're saying. 3. seems reasonable if it starts guiding as usual when I get there (maybe with a sound when this happens so I know it is now guiding the route).

As it happens, I don't need to be guided to the start of the route so much (though there is obvious benefit). I would like to fully set up Locus with the route and guiding options, then get on with it with no further input, including cycling to the start of the route, and hear the alarm when I mistakenly leave the route.

Consider the cyclist (a pre-determined GPS profile indicates consideration to this). 25+kph, 100km of route, gloves, both hands on bars, phone in pocket in a plastic pouch, an intense phobia of stopping, because that means being slow, and/or losing contact with other riders (and that means slow for the rest of the day). Even if phone is in a hands-free kit, operating the phone on the move is not easy (gloves, plastic cover that's supposedly touch capable) and it's very hard to see (sunlight, reflection of own face, vibration, can't move phone closer to face), and that's for road cyclists, not to mention mountain bikers. These are the reasons for less button presses and not being able to interpret the route's current state.

Oruxmaps' functionality in this area is just to alarm when within a certain range of any point on the route, and that's good enough for my needs (along with waypoint announcement). Locus' Guiding system seems to add the functionality of visualising the guiding and progressing the guiding and with the added 'benefit' of not alarming when re-approaching the route and that seems ok too.

Think of a circular route, starting and finishing near home. I know home, I know how to get to where I want to start, so I won't plan a route at all within my town (or there might be some over routing if the start is not accurately known - start at the cafe - though a start at a cafe would be an organised event and I'd have time to sit and fiddle with phone before start), but what if the guiding picks a point at the end of the route to the East of the town, not the start, to the West. I need the guiding to behave the same way each time without having to check the phone to see what's it's doing, whether or not it's picked up the route correctly.

Pretty please? :)

Admittedly, this does take the fun out of some of these events, because without audio announcements (another matter) you get a dozen cyclists sat at a junction pulling out scrappy bits of paper, trying to suss where they've got to, or a handful trying to chase down a couple of others who have mistakenly bombed off downhill in the wrong direction.

I do see you've a well developed Navigation system, and this is creeping into another request - which is text to speech - but when I was planning a coast to coast with cycle paths and tracks I used instructions that included change of path so I knew to leave the road, for example, I don't think Navigation will give me the instructions I need. Audax rides require you to stop and take note of a clue such as a pub name, roadsign, or to stop and check-in somewhere, so a waypoint warning to look out is useful. I also used RideWithGPS to generate turn based navigation, but it's roundabout instructions were inaccurate and that was based on tracks snapped to roads, not just on the shape of the route, which should have made it easier. I haven't tested your Navigation so much, all past experiences guide me to planning the route and instructions meticulously and being confident in the feedback I'm going to get.

Is this a direction you're planning on taking Locus?

Sorry Goosien,

I did not read the whole long story. Just the title.

If you want to be guided to a single point, be it the start point. Select this point and select, or Navigation (internet connection helps you) or the more very basic guiding/compass to single Waypoint and when arrived there switch to your Track navigation and go go go ....? But You do not want to start track Navigation when you arrive there ? Strange..such in a hurry ?

Hello Goosien,

as you may see, from your description isn't on first sight clear what is your idea about. I understand, anyway cannot fully agree due to already mentioned three points above.

I should leave idea open, so number of votes may convince me to invest some time and make this idea real.