'Navigate to' - no Recalculation with 'Recalculate'
Hello
I sometimes use the 'Navigate to'-function for planning and getting an idea of the route, oportunities and time to target, but without really being at the location.
So I pick start and final both by 'select on map', choose a profile and fire the navigation, so the route gets calculated. Mostly I use brouter (offline) as routing-engine which works flawlessly, pretty awsome.
But if I switch the routing-profile (long-press 'Recalculate') and then press 'Recalculate', nothing really happens. Doesn't matter which engine or profile is used or switched to, still nothing happens.
I definitely have to 'end navigation' and redo the complete thing but with a different profile, engine, whatever. Gets tricky with 'select on map' as those points don't appear under 'recently used' at the point-dialogue.
See attached pictures with same start and final but with different profiles (walk & car), each calculated as a new Navigation - both gets calculated, so still possible.
With using Navigation-'recently used' the whole track gets reloaded incl. used profile and route. Then selecting the track on the map, select 'navigate to', and Recalculate with different profile also doesn't work.
Keep in mind that I never really start the navigation as I am still away from the start-point.
btw the new Route Planner looks promising and might help me with this, but the Recalc-function still doesn't work, which might be a bug?
Locus Map Pro 3.25.5
Good day T-mo,
have to say that your use case is little weird. "Navigate to" feature is made mainly ( and probably only ) for real navigation, not for planning. For this, please use "Add new route" function, it's it purpose!
In this case, I probably see a problem, why it does nothing. You have turned GPS on in Locus Map, but probably disabled in system, so Locus knows your approximate position ( orange GPS icon at top), but not precise one. So request on recalculation is accepted, but Locus Map waits on valid GPS location. To make this work, suggest to disable GPS in Locus Map. Then request on recalculate will take map center as your current location and recalculation will work from this place ( feature used for simulation ). Anyway I still may only recommend to use mentioned "Add new route".
Let me know if you have, for you, usable solution, or if there is something more I may help with.
Good day T-mo,
have to say that your use case is little weird. "Navigate to" feature is made mainly ( and probably only ) for real navigation, not for planning. For this, please use "Add new route" function, it's it purpose!
In this case, I probably see a problem, why it does nothing. You have turned GPS on in Locus Map, but probably disabled in system, so Locus knows your approximate position ( orange GPS icon at top), but not precise one. So request on recalculation is accepted, but Locus Map waits on valid GPS location. To make this work, suggest to disable GPS in Locus Map. Then request on recalculate will take map center as your current location and recalculation will work from this place ( feature used for simulation ). Anyway I still may only recommend to use mentioned "Add new route".
Let me know if you have, for you, usable solution, or if there is something more I may help with.
Hi menion,
thanks for taking the time and details.
You're absolutly right, system-GPS has been off.
This is my normal usecase, GPS not necessarily in use and checking a calculated track for possible navigation.
To be honest I never used 'add new route & measure' as text & symbol never made me thought about such kind of route-calculation, that purpose. I thought about track (instead of route as result of routing), drawing, editing, some special-stuff regarding projections, measurements..Idunno.
With 'more functions' there's still 'navigate to' quite at close-top-position, and this symbol and the once used in the settings (I checked out a lot) made me thought about using the right thing.
I like my simple approach :-) but still have to laugh as I always thought about doing the right thing while you tell me different :-)
So it does calculate the route but it doesn't recalculate. I used 2 locations via 'select on map', so in the sense of definition still a valid setup. With this in mind the workaround is sort of strange to me.
Waiting for reaching the start-location and the start makes sense for sure, but ignoring recalculation never makes sense to me :-P (recalculate has to recalculate with each hit, the result might be identical due to profile, start/target, maybe different if there would be traffic-informations in the distant future).
Sure, I will use the 'route planner' which is also better to use and more fun for this purpose.
But there might be other strange people out there.. :-D
Regards
Hi menion,
thanks for taking the time and details.
You're absolutly right, system-GPS has been off.
This is my normal usecase, GPS not necessarily in use and checking a calculated track for possible navigation.
To be honest I never used 'add new route & measure' as text & symbol never made me thought about such kind of route-calculation, that purpose. I thought about track (instead of route as result of routing), drawing, editing, some special-stuff regarding projections, measurements..Idunno.
With 'more functions' there's still 'navigate to' quite at close-top-position, and this symbol and the once used in the settings (I checked out a lot) made me thought about using the right thing.
I like my simple approach :-) but still have to laugh as I always thought about doing the right thing while you tell me different :-)
So it does calculate the route but it doesn't recalculate. I used 2 locations via 'select on map', so in the sense of definition still a valid setup. With this in mind the workaround is sort of strange to me.
Waiting for reaching the start-location and the start makes sense for sure, but ignoring recalculation never makes sense to me :-P (recalculate has to recalculate with each hit, the result might be identical due to profile, start/target, maybe different if there would be traffic-informations in the distant future).
Sure, I will use the 'route planner' which is also better to use and more fun for this purpose.
But there might be other strange people out there.. :-D
Regards
Hello T-mo,
I do not perfectly get where is a problem. When you hit recalculate button, Locus recalculate a track. But! for this is needed your current location because this is a starting point of new route that should be a result of recalculation. And when GPS is turned off, Locus just still waits till it will be enabled, that's all. To me, it sound quite logic and only what I see here as a problem is that Locus does not notify that GPS is not enabled. This is anyway because I never had this problem ... recalculation is always used during ride and when you ride, you always have enabled GPS.
Route planner is currently in complete rewrite and during next months will be published new version, so hope you will find new version even more fun and useful ;).
Thanks for understanding.
Menion
Hello T-mo,
I do not perfectly get where is a problem. When you hit recalculate button, Locus recalculate a track. But! for this is needed your current location because this is a starting point of new route that should be a result of recalculation. And when GPS is turned off, Locus just still waits till it will be enabled, that's all. To me, it sound quite logic and only what I see here as a problem is that Locus does not notify that GPS is not enabled. This is anyway because I never had this problem ... recalculation is always used during ride and when you ride, you always have enabled GPS.
Route planner is currently in complete rewrite and during next months will be published new version, so hope you will find new version even more fun and useful ;).
Thanks for understanding.
Menion
Hello menion,
hmm ok, I got the point.
While being off-location and thought to be >not in real navigation> I still had my start/target in mind, which haven't changed and I thought they still define the start & target of the route, also with recalculate. Still thought I'm not at the route and in routing so there's nothing different than before.
So 'select on map' for the >start<-location is for the >initial< route-definition, and this initial route is has to be reached, then routing, or otherwise with recalculate the position has to be given via GPS as new start-location, as example.
Please keep in mind that I still 'misused' navigation for planning, being completely off-position, which won't be the case any more. Of course I used recalculate a lot the way it is and works while being in real navigation and it does what it should, perfectly.
Thanks you for taking the time
Hello menion,
hmm ok, I got the point.
While being off-location and thought to be >not in real navigation> I still had my start/target in mind, which haven't changed and I thought they still define the start & target of the route, also with recalculate. Still thought I'm not at the route and in routing so there's nothing different than before.
So 'select on map' for the >start<-location is for the >initial< route-definition, and this initial route is has to be reached, then routing, or otherwise with recalculate the position has to be given via GPS as new start-location, as example.
Please keep in mind that I still 'misused' navigation for planning, being completely off-position, which won't be the case any more. Of course I used recalculate a lot the way it is and works while being in real navigation and it does what it should, perfectly.
Thanks you for taking the time
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