Timezone settings - where they are after update?

Menion ●

Ah we are talking about OpenCaching.

"What's the reason to change time while exporting logs to file?" - did you read my previous post? Time in logs is now correct. It needs to be in UTC+0 time. If you are in timezone UTC+2, then time is logically moved by 2 hours less. Anyway OpenCaching should offer settings to display time in your own timezone. If not, you needs to log in Locus with time moved two hours more, so not in 12:00 , but rather in 14:00.

Hmm it looks like quite complicated task that require some hacks in Locus to make it work on other web pages, stupid ... anyway for now, I may only recommend above idea.

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Menion ●

Good day Karls,

settings for timezones was removed from Locus probably two or three months ago. There were a few reasons for this step, but most important of them were:

- till this settings was removed, Locus worked with times incorrectly. By incorrectly I mean that Locus moved logged time to some "virtual" time zone, so results looked correctly on geocaching.com web side, but they were shifted.

- logging of same cache over online or offline do not result in exactly same times

- users on east hemisphere had troubles with logging a caches due to previously mentioned "hack"

Mainly because of first point, this settings was removed as it was not needed. You may confirm that your log has correct time, if you download cache GPX file right after log and in this GPX file will be correct time you used to log.

Anyway I'm aware that times visible on geocaching.com site may be incorrect. Unfortunately this is old issue known to geocaching.com developers already for a few years, like: http://forums.groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=333744&st=0&p=5525341 and many many others.

Hope my answer is clear. Unfortunately I'm worried I cannot help here more as issue is not on Locus side. Thanks for understanding.

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Karls ●

Thanks for the reply,

Now I know what happends with this toggle but it still doesn't solve my proble.

I think that it is more complexed - lets assume that I made a log at 12:00, in Locus the time is presented correctly. Then I export it to file - the time inside txt file is changed to 10:00 due of my time zone. In result the time in OpenCaching site will be not correct as it doesn't use any time zone while importing logs. The time on GC is less important form so if they have bug with time zone i can handle it but the time on OC should be correct. What's the reason to change time while exporting logs to file?

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Menion ● ●

Ah we are talking about OpenCaching.

"What's the reason to change time while exporting logs to file?" - did you read my previous post? Time in logs is now correct. It needs to be in UTC+0 time. If you are in timezone UTC+2, then time is logically moved by 2 hours less. Anyway OpenCaching should offer settings to display time in your own timezone. If not, you needs to log in Locus with time moved two hours more, so not in 12:00 , but rather in 14:00.

Hmm it looks like quite complicated task that require some hacks in Locus to make it work on other web pages, stupid ... anyway for now, I may only recommend above idea.

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Karls ●

Ok now I understand. OpenCaching don't offer direct correction for timezone, only a option to manualy correction of time by adding +2h but it have to be done each time I load fieldnotes. It would be great if there will be a option to ignore timezone while exporting to file.

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fotrik ●

This is so stupid! Thanks to removed timezone all my afternoon and evening logs uploaded to gc.com are shifted to next day. Really many thanks for making the app more and more "efficient". You had 5 stars from me in the store about 5 years ago. Pity that I cannot go lower than 1 now.

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Menion ●

Good day fotrik,

you are welcome! I'm really surprised that you complain because of this an more then year after they were removed. Did you read my explanation here: http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/timezone-settings-where-they-are-after-update#comment-26745 ?

Timezones in Locus Map was only a hack because of bad system on geocaching.com web server. If you needs to have precise date on geocaching.com web, then during log check "Log date only". This should solve your frustration.

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c.s.g. ●

Hi,

maybe it has something to do with the topic api logging date changes at groundspeak which i have posted at the forum of Locus. Just a guess ...

c.s.g.

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fotrik ●

I am complaining so late because thanks to such "improvements" I have app updates always disabled and I update only by intention. So far I have been using about 2-3 years old version but now I bought new phone and was forced to new version. The users which update regularly probably don't see the big changes but since the existence of the application I made only 3 or 4 updates. Next to new usefull features the interface and the usage comfort was worse every time.

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Menion ●

Thanks c.s.g,

but I hope it's not this case. Or anyone has new experience with incorrect dates during latest days? Because Locus already for some time sends times only in UTC system, so it should be working correctly.

Ah damn I have found one problem I did not noticed before. So mentioned "log date only" is not working correctly now (probably). Suggest not to use it till next version. Thanks c.s.g. for a "kick".

@fotrik: do not know how may I help here. I may send you older version of app if it helps. And worst every time ... I like these useful feedbacks, thanks.

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c.s.g. ●

Hi Menion,

thanks for the info.

Does this problem affects the Fieldnotes-Addon too? Or is it just a Locus problem?

c.s.g.

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Menion ●

I think that field notes add-on does not log caches on it's own, but over Locus Map. Anyway issue that is in Locus Map currently is that when you choose "log date only", it recompute current time into Pacific time in 12 o'clock. Which is no more valid since these changes in Groundspeak system. So just do not use this checkbox for now. I'll publish new Beta version maybe today so we should test it more before new release, just for sure. After all these years I've learned that Groundspeak API cannot be trusted :).

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c.s.g. ●

Hi Menion,

again ... thanks for the info.

A little offtopic: I hoped this problem affects the Fieldnotes-Addon too because as you can read here the Addon crashes if you try to edit any item in the settings menu of the Addon since version 1.4.6.1.It looks like this problem is Android specific. The AddOn do not crash on all devices, but on my too devices with Android 5.x Stock ROM it does.

Thanks to balloni55 I was able to return to version 1.4.5.1 without having these problems.

Version 1.4.6.1 is from beginning of march and since then nothing happend to fix the problem in the Fieldnotes-Addon. So I hoped that a fix in the Addon because of this topic is necessary. I hoped then the bug introduced in Version 1.4.6.1 in the setiings menu will be fixed too.

c.s.g.

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fotrik ●

Menion, no problem I have switched back to the old version transferred from my old phone via the Smart Switch application. Now I have my timezones back...

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Menion ●

@c.s.g. : this is unfortunately little bit complicated. Not because I do not want to fix some issues in this add-on, but because I can't. Add-on is developed by independent developer and only "power of users" may push him little bit to fix some remaining problems. Sorry ...

@fotrik: ok, just be careful, because I'm really sure that older version with TimeZones caused some troubles with times as well. Because of this ( times were incorrect on geocaching.com site ), this option was removed. Anyway if it works for you, good for you.

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