Flexible "add via points" function in "route and measure" track design.

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Actual: by config .cfg: Choose a prefered fixed setting.

New: If no via's is prefered modus, allow to place MUST PASS VIA by a second +tap at the same location. A single first +tap adds a "soft via" -> next +tap at same position a change to "hard VIA" -> a next -tap at same position back to "soft via". Save and keep the hard = MUST PASS VIAS only in finalised trackdesign.

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I am not absolutely sure that a simple second tap would be best because it happens quite often that it is interpreted as very short drag of the point.

Maybe a long tap and in addition to the already available options "Edit" & "Delete" a new option "Promote as Via" would be best.

Anyway, I would really appreciate such option. I missed it already quite often to distinguish between points used just to manipulate the route and real must pass via points.

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New track creation:

- Quick Double +Set (-Set) tapping results in normal undelayed fast track creation.

- Best no extra delays by long taps nor new extra menus to select such simple action !

I think this should cause no operational problem because:

- Inaccurate points position placement by user is corrected by magnetic "snap to road" action.

- There is no map dragging by "on panel" double tap +set to "Via" (Down arrow) or by tap - set to "Non Via".

- Minimum new point separation is > 10m or prevents 'accidental' point creation by small position shift.

- Only when positioned in 10m dia point "area" status to "Via" or back to "Non Via" is changeble by +set or -set.

Existing track:

- In existing edit on map function a "promote to Via" could be added by:

- In function "Convert to navigation waypoint": -> Select Icon: Add "Via" (Down arrow).

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How to add a "Must Pass Via" by +set tap. See demo video:

https://youtu.be/f3MK6nnoCbc

Demo by Locus 3.17.2.1 Beta. "Quick Add point" = by tap on map.

+set = promote to "via". - set = promote to "non via"

Use cases:

Promote to Via Point by +SET tap.

Example: User standard set up is "no via points". By config.cfg: "dev_enable_add_new_route_via_points=0"

After point is set (on road) by the autorouter: Map Screen = auto centering around this point.

Tap +SET: "Pop up" display: "Distance between points is too short". Here should be placed: "MUST PASS VIA".

Promote to Non Via by -SET tap.

Example: User standard set up is "add via points". By config.cfg: "dev_enable_add_new_route_via_points=1"

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A better expression ? A "Non Via" Point could also be named: A "Shaping Point".

Only in use to build (steer) a track design and removed when saving the final resulting track design.

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First tap + SET: Add Shape Point.

Second tap +SET at same position: Promotes to "Via Priority Point" Preset name: Via Point.

Third tap +SET at same position: Promotes to "Info Priority Point" by offering free name edit and description.

By tap -SET: To a lower order setting until complete point removal. Also easy clearing of Information in Info Point.

Info Priority Point what is it good for ?

http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/locus-track-editor-convert-to-navigation-point-add-generic

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Good day Willy,

a lot of topics marked by tag navigation. Seems I'll have to do some "month of navigation" during winter and solve/implement some of most wanted tasks :). I'm reading all posts, but in these cases, I cannot say some opinion for now, thanks for understanding.

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Hmm ... well ... implemented :). You will see in next version, but tap to toggle between "use as via-point" and "point only for creating route, but do not use as via-point", seems to be best solution. Thanks Willy!

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Thank you. And curious how that "toggle" function will perform in real action. If I read correct will not implement the 3e option, to create Info_Point by free: name, description, Icon. Loong tap ?

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By Long Tap. ?

Add Info_Points: (local language)<name><desc> and (English)<sym>.

- ADD the INTERNAL Locus listed, standard waypoints, to be used as "Priortiy_Points" with the same functionality in Navigation as the Locus "Via_Point"

In the zip attachment:

+ Garmin_symbols.gpx

+ Locus_Internal_Icons.gpx

+ Demo_navtrack_Info_Points.gpx

Navtrack with some Priority_Points. Using Icons from the Locus internal symbol list.

+ Demo_navwpt_navtrkpt_priopt.gpx.

Same as above but has all navigation info also integrated direct into the trackpoints.

By gpx:

Has a lot more Icons (and attributes) available, than by tcx standard limited to 16 <PointTypes>.

Click Priority_Points Ex: (72) for more info details. And by Virtual position similate a Navigation drive.

Garmin very discrete "Waypoint" symbol used to replace the known Locus Via_Point 'Down Arrow" Icon. Alternative Via_Point only to be used for 'autorecalculate' function, by discrete Icon, or TTS announced by <name>, or not, by empty <name>.

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Sorry Menion, did not see your comment from 4 hours ago.

Thanks for listening to your users.

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Just upgraded and have this issue as well. Had to make an account just to vote on this. Please fix

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Hello Sonny,

it´s implemented, we have to wait on next update of Locus

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Correct me if I'm wrong - it seems a new point is a via point, then at any time before saving the new track I can tap the point icon to toggle between via/ shaping status, and the color will also toggle between green and blue? My immediate experience - is via icon green or blue, is shaping icon blue or green - frustration. Of course, maybe I'll learn, but appears once track is saved it is not possible to edit track and toggle existing points between via/ shaping - new topic? Also, maybe use different icon for a via point instead of simple circle icon? Also, and off topic I know but highly relevant, editing of existing tracks could be so much better if points could be moved - proper rubber banding with track recalculation. Once a new track is saved, if any big changes are required it is faster just to delete and start again.

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