Navigation point challenges
I've been trying to use the app for couple of years (as gold), but never been able to fully use it.
My use case is to plan the route in the app, send the route to my garmin watch, main navigation with watch and app as a complement.
One thing that's important to me is to be in control of the navigation/course points and that's where locus map has falling short every time I e tested to plan a route here.
I would like to be able to:
- Change the default names for the navigation points to be shortened for the small watch screen, maybe bear left->BL or >.
- Easy go through a navigation point list while seeing the map to rather quickly change the name, change symbol, delete or add a new one at a new place.
- In the same list view, change from a navigation symbol to another course point symbol and at the same time change name.
- If a symbol is used that's compatible with Garmin fit course point (up-ahead) symbols, that should be exported to the correct one in fit file. Now all are exported as Generic what I can see.
All of the above, except the first one, I can do today, but it's cumbersome.
In route viewing mode I can tap every little tiny blue dot and then see what navigation point it is and select edit and change name or delete it. Not change symbol or easy jump to next navigation point, only next track point and if on a train k point I can't change it to a nav or via point.
In route planning mode, there is a nice list where it's possible to change symbol type, but not the name and the list doesn't show the nav points.
All my Garmin watches have had a lag when they showing the navigation info on the watch. I get the turn point after the fact. One way of come around this is to move the nav points backwards on track at time of exporting the route (for instance 15m is good for running). An option for that would be great.
All this are available at other route planning tools, so my planning has been done at those places.
I really like all other map features and would really be able to use it for planning too.
Is there tools or options in locus maps that I've not seen to help with these challenges I have?
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Hi Peter,
how do you transfer the route into your watch? Do you use the Locus Map for Garmin add-on? (route detail > share > send to Garmin) Or, do you use share > share as GPX > open in Garmin Connect > sync with your watch?
Why do you need to set navigation point names? The watch only displays the navigation symbols like arrows, doesn't it?
Hi Peter,
how do you transfer the route into your watch? Do you use the Locus Map for Garmin add-on? (route detail > share > send to Garmin) Or, do you use share > share as GPX > open in Garmin Connect > sync with your watch?
Why do you need to set navigation point names? The watch only displays the navigation symbols like arrows, doesn't it?
Gpx tbt navigation track to tcx or fit files.
Gpx tbt navigation track to tcx or fit files.
"- Change the default names for the navigation points to be shortened for the small watch screen, maybe bear left->BL or >."
- this is not possible, the texts for navigation commands are not editable and are only served for the Text-to-speech service
Via points can be edited in the route planner (more info: https://docs.locusmap.app/doku.php/manual:user_guide:tracks:editing#re-routing)
"All my Garmin watches have had a lag when they showing the navigation info on the watch."
- Locus Map can't influence the lag of your watches. Garmin controls the timing and distribution of the navigation commands. It is possible to set timing for navigation commands in Locus Map, but it is only relevant to the Locus Map app, not to the export to Garmin watches. More info: https://docs.locusmap.app/doku.php/manual:advanced:customization:config#navigation_guidance
"- Change the default names for the navigation points to be shortened for the small watch screen, maybe bear left->BL or >."
- this is not possible, the texts for navigation commands are not editable and are only served for the Text-to-speech service
Via points can be edited in the route planner (more info: https://docs.locusmap.app/doku.php/manual:user_guide:tracks:editing#re-routing)
"All my Garmin watches have had a lag when they showing the navigation info on the watch."
- Locus Map can't influence the lag of your watches. Garmin controls the timing and distribution of the navigation commands. It is possible to set timing for navigation commands in Locus Map, but it is only relevant to the Locus Map app, not to the export to Garmin watches. More info: https://docs.locusmap.app/doku.php/manual:advanced:customization:config#navigation_guidance
I updated my console java app to be able to be able to fix a lot of these things after exported to a fit, like skorten navigation labels to text symbols, change fit symbols supported by garmin up-ahead, change pace, move back navigation points on track, shift track left/right and more.
The thing I really would like to be implemented in Locus edit track mode, is to be able to change the name/label of navigation points. For instance to give me more info about a crossing coming up on the watch. To tap a navigation point and change the label in the same way as via point.
It would also be very welcome to get the trail/road name included in the navigation label automatically.
I updated my console java app to be able to be able to fix a lot of these things after exported to a fit, like skorten navigation labels to text symbols, change fit symbols supported by garmin up-ahead, change pace, move back navigation points on track, shift track left/right and more.
The thing I really would like to be implemented in Locus edit track mode, is to be able to change the name/label of navigation points. For instance to give me more info about a crossing coming up on the watch. To tap a navigation point and change the label in the same way as via point.
It would also be very welcome to get the trail/road name included in the navigation label automatically.
Hi Peter,
if you want to suggest a change to the app, please create an idea on the helpdesk and let other users vote for it. If the idea gets enough support, the dev team will start thinking about its implementation.
Hi Peter,
if you want to suggest a change to the app, please create an idea on the helpdesk and let other users vote for it. If the idea gets enough support, the dev team will start thinking about its implementation.
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