Suggestion to improve locus pro with imported gpx files

Jörg Hielscher shared this idea 5 years ago
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I`m missingin locus pro the possibility to change the navigation mode using imported gpxfiles.

Forexample:

You startyour tour in the near( not exactly on the tour) of the middle of imported gpxfile. Locus has only the possibility to choose “routeprority” (locus will tryto bring you to the startpoint of the gpx-file) or “endpointpriority” ( locuswill bring you to endpoint anyway). Inother systems you have 4 possibilities without copying the gpx file withchanged direction:

1. → tostart

Tour direction endpoint

2. → to end tour direction startpoint

3. → totour follow tour to endpoint

4. → totour

Follow tour to startpoint

Especiallythe point 3 and 4 is what I think is very important for a good navigationsystem.

Or did Imiss something in locus?


Thanks foryour answer and hopefully an update J J

Kindregards

JörgHielscher

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What is your problem

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I`m missingin locus pro the possibility to change the navigation mode using imported gpxfiles.

Forexample:

You startyour tour in the near( not exactly on the tour) of the middle of imported gpxfile. Locus has only the possibility to choose “routeprority” (locus will tryto bring you to the startpoint of the gpx-file) or “endpointpriority” ( locuswill bring you to endpoint anyway). Inother systems you have 4 possibilities without copying the gpx file withchanged direction:

1. → tostart

Tour direction endpoint

2. → to end tour direction startpoint

3. → totour follow tour to endpoint

4. → totour

Follow tour to startpoint

Especiallythe point 3 and 4 is what I think is very important for a good navigationsystem.

Or did Imiss something in locus?


Thanks foryour answer and hopefully an update J J

Kindregards

JörgHielscher

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Hello Jörg.

Thank you for your email.

Please, add your idea to our Help Desk to "Idea" section. There can other users vote for your suggestion for improvement.


Thank you

Hana

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"Or did Imiss something in locus?"

http://docs.locusmap.eu/doku.php?id=manual:user_guide:functions:navigation

Auto recalculation - route priority & Auto recalculation - point priority

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Thanks for your comment. But there is not the possibility to choose between

1. to the endpoint of the route and

2, to the startpoint of the route

if i start in the middle of the route

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You say: Navigate along an imported navigation track ? You prefer to be navigated along that unchanged trackrun into the reverse direction ? Not possible. Problem L<->R changes, one way streets, and the roundabout probematic. So imported navigation track desings by trackfiles (source ?) are unidirectional. To be navigated correct and secure only into the *forward" designed direction. If you want to be navigated to the start position you need a complete recalculation, such means a different **new navigation track design optimised for the reverse direction.

So best not cycling in reverse by the original trackrun as otherwise you cycle(drive) into one way streets in the reverse direction. Or maybe you want to travel also a roundabout in the reverse direction ?

I suppose not ?


** New track design byLocus From your postion to (any) point. Any = Inclusive the Start point.

When arrived at the start point.. Start your Navigation along the imported track.

Is it that what you need ? How to function is in the Manual: "Navigate to point"

http://docs.locusmap.eu/doku.php?id=manual:user_guide:functions:navigation

http://docs.locusmap.eu/doku.php?id=manual:user_guide:functions:navigation:point-to-point

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I would have the Problem in the past. I start the Navigation for a downloaded Track from gpsies.com. LocusMap navigate me to the StartPoint and now i stopped the Navigation and start again. Then LocusMap navigate me now from the Startpoint.

But the Point is LocusMap should ignore the Start and Endpoint and navigate me continous without stopping. Thats just possible on Tracks that was Round Trips.

I hope i can contribute this Idea more clearly.

Best Regards

hardliner

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Oh sorry for my misunderstood. Jörg Hielscher have really good explain the Issue. Navigate the Person to the fastest way to the Track.

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Hi,

if you start navigation somewhere near the middle of the imported route and you have automatic recalculation with route priority ON, Locus calculates route to the nearest place of the imported route and then along the route, not to its start so the point 3 of this idea is covered. If the starting point of the imported route is the closest place of the route to your position, Locus navigates to it and then along the route - point 1 is covered. I don't understand point 2. Point 4 - tap the route, select trackpoint on the spot of your tapping and start navigation to it.

Michal

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Actually very easy to understand.

"Locus calculates route to the nearest place of the imported route and then along the route" Thas is right and this is the Problem.

You can not choose in which direction


Please see also comment from Hardliner

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I think this is not a problem. Each route is a chain of routepoints going one after another consecutively - the direction is a crucial part of metainformation the route holds. If you need to go along the route in reverse direction, the route itself must be reversed, i .e. the order of its routepoints must be reordered in opposite way. This is done when you make a copy of the route and check that you want to make it in reversed mode. Then you place it on the map and start navigation - Locus navigates to the route and then along it in reversed direction.

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That's exactly what I said or meant from the beginning.
Locuscan not do that which I have listed under point 1-4.

Tahuna,for example, can do that very well.

Theobjection with one-way streets I do not find worth mentioning. I willdefinitely not navigate with Locus through Prague, Paris or Cologne.

Imean here a bicycle route that leads along beautiful cycling paths.

Againan example: I have a bicycle route that is about 60 km from A to B longimported as gpx file. I live in the middle of this route and would like todrive once to A and the next day in the direction of B. Without copying theroute and save in the opposite direction. Locus is not clear here. Tahuna doesthat without much effort.

Anotherdisadvantage of Locus is that you often drive in the direction of the lowerscreen. If you choose to turn the screen in the direction of travel you drivein the right direction, but all the labels on the map are turned upside down.Again, this is not the case with Tahuna and naviki.

Abig advantage of Locus is that it works 100% offline and you can load all sortsof maps.

AtTahuna I have not tested that with the 100% offline yet, but I'll do it soon.

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That's exactly what I said or meant from the beginning.
Locuscan not do that which I have listed under point 1-4.

Tahuna,for example, can do that very well.

Theobjection with one-way streets I do not find worth mentioning. I willdefinitely not navigate with Locus through Prague, Paris or Cologne.

Imean here a bicycle route that leads along beautiful cycling paths.

Againan example: I have a bicycle route that is about 60 km from A to B longimported as gpx file. I live in the middle of this route and would like todrive once to A and the next day in the direction of B. Without copying theroute and save in the opposite direction. Locus is not clear here. Tahuna doesthat without much effort.

Anotherdisadvantage of Locus is that you often drive in the direction of the lowerscreen. If you choose to turn the screen in the direction of travel you drivein the right direction, but all the labels on the map are turned upside down.Again, this is not the case with Tahuna and naviki.

Abig advantage of Locus is that it works 100% offline and you can load all sortsof maps.

AtTahuna I have not tested that with the 100% offline yet, but I'll do it soon.

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Hi Jörg, okido understand that one way etc is not a problem for you. But for other users it sure will.

Hard to fullfill all users wishes :-) By reversing, all the turndirections L/R of course must be changed.

Anyway I think, by Michals suggestion Locus only recalculates directions based on trackshape = not optimal.


In Locus help there is a request for recalculation (via points !) by different router profiles.

http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/allow-3-26-route-planner-to-recalculate-route-with-different-profile


Was tested in Beta releases but no final realisation. Maybe by this system objections can be solved in a future edition ? Succesfull recalculation based on an imported gpx file (router map_source unknow) however is probably not an easy task.


Map and (non) turning map labels problematic was also asked by users.

http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/vector-maps-dont-rotate-labels-and-icons


You notice that latest remark: Why hasn't it been done yet?

I suppose because Locus map is a development by a hard working single person only ?

Jörg for better understanding I am just a user of Locus map as you do ! Hana & Michal are the Locus team members.

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Sorry for the spelling. But if I insert a text here, then suddenly many things are simply hung together

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Sorry for the spelling. But if I insert a text here, then suddenly many things are simply hung together

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Topic is created twice, please delete one or lead together.

http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/suggestion-to-improve-locus-pro-with-imported-gpx-files

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Navigating in another direction should not be so difficult. How does Locus create the route?

Track is imported.

Track points are sent to Routing Service (BRouter).

Route is created by BRouter.

We only need one box to select "Navigate in the opposite direction"

What does Locus have to do now ....

Rename the track points.

Let's assume we have 100 track points.

100 becomes one, 99 becomes 2, 98 becomes 3, ....

And then the points are sent to BRouter

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How to delete or better to lead together?

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Only from Locus

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Sorry i mean how to delete or better to lead together the Topic?

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that can only be the locus team (administrator)

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