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Quick navigation with arrows through points
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Hi,
small problem. When quickly navigating through trackpoints via the arrows, the lower pane resizes when there is a navigation command. So in effect we cannot quickly navigate.
I am doing this often in order to find middle of a planned track or middle of elevation gain.
The same problem 
Hello Tapio,
hmm, this is because you pulled the panel up to the full size. Then bottom panel adapts to the content. The solution is to reduce the panel to its partial size only. Unfortunately then isn't visible distance, understand. Heh, it is a little complicated ...
What I may offer ...
Reduced height of content by removing little bit useless "Statistics" header, switching "From start" and "To end" (as "End" is usually more interesting) and finally default height little bigger to see it all ...
Any thoughts?
Hello Tapio,
hmm, this is because you pulled the panel up to the full size. Then bottom panel adapts to the content. The solution is to reduce the panel to its partial size only. Unfortunately then isn't visible distance, understand. Heh, it is a little complicated ...
What I may offer ...
Reduced height of content by removing little bit useless "Statistics" header, switching "From start" and "To end" (as "End" is usually more interesting) and finally default height little bigger to see it all ...
Any thoughts?
Yes I have many thoughts here, I would reorder the point info much more. Wanted to open a discussion soon, with photoshops and reasoning, maybe see what the users say...
Yes I have many thoughts here, I would reorder the point info much more. Wanted to open a discussion soon, with photoshops and reasoning, maybe see what the users say...
OK I cannot resist 😁
My basic assumption is, trackpoint screen is all about analysis. Skipping over many points and observing data like trackpoint time, speed, from start, to end...
Therefore the statistics must have priority and always be visible. Followed by the location data. Of biggest interest are "created" and speed there. Have to be on top of statistics. Especially "created" should always be visible. Eg lat/lon is just something you do not observe while analysing. So, to the bottom.
The track name and folder wastes analysis space. IMO could go to the bottom. I don't know if it even should be always visible. If you really think it should, just as super small text. And we still can return to track via bottom left button.
If the rows titles like "Location" could be placed vertically to the left, that would be great for space.
The big data on top IMO are not useful. Altitude most of us have displayed under the cursor/screen center. To me, a waste of space.
And, if technically possible, IMO the navigation buttons should rather be docked.
OK I cannot resist 😁
My basic assumption is, trackpoint screen is all about analysis. Skipping over many points and observing data like trackpoint time, speed, from start, to end...
Therefore the statistics must have priority and always be visible. Followed by the location data. Of biggest interest are "created" and speed there. Have to be on top of statistics. Especially "created" should always be visible. Eg lat/lon is just something you do not observe while analysing. So, to the bottom.
The track name and folder wastes analysis space. IMO could go to the bottom. I don't know if it even should be always visible. If you really think it should, just as super small text. And we still can return to track via bottom left button.
If the rows titles like "Location" could be placed vertically to the left, that would be great for space.
The big data on top IMO are not useful. Altitude most of us have displayed under the cursor/screen center. To me, a waste of space.
And, if technically possible, IMO the navigation buttons should rather be docked.
I had the same problem yesterday too. I wanted to navigate to a point and the screen kept covering the track.
Coordinates and track names / folders are not required when navigating. But if I want to see it, I should be able to call it up.
With the first click on the arrow keys, this information is shifted down into the invisible area. If I want to take a quick look, I can pull the window up and then slide it back down. Or it automatically goes down again when you let go.
I had the same problem yesterday too. I wanted to navigate to a point and the screen kept covering the track.
Coordinates and track names / folders are not required when navigating. But if I want to see it, I should be able to call it up.
With the first click on the arrow keys, this information is shifted down into the invisible area. If I want to take a quick look, I can pull the window up and then slide it back down. Or it automatically goes down again when you let go.
An additional possibility to gain more analysis space. The first time you click the arrow keys, the gaps between the information are reduced.
I know this doesn't look good, but it has to be practical. Better to be less beautiful and usable. As beautiful and unusable.
An additional possibility to gain more analysis space. The first time you click the arrow keys, the gaps between the information are reduced.
I know this doesn't look good, but it has to be practical. Better to be less beautiful and usable. As beautiful and unusable.
Hi, This has also been a frustration for me. In my case with the panel pulled up I see 13mm of map for trackpoints and 3mm for navpoints so when stepping through points I always have to drag up then drag down. Maybe visible area depends on phone dimensions, resolution etc, or is there some setting affecting it?
For me most important thing right now is to see the next/prev trackpoint button row when the panel is pulled down to its smaller version. (The layout probably could benefit from other changes but that's perhaps a different issue)
Hi, This has also been a frustration for me. In my case with the panel pulled up I see 13mm of map for trackpoints and 3mm for navpoints so when stepping through points I always have to drag up then drag down. Maybe visible area depends on phone dimensions, resolution etc, or is there some setting affecting it?
For me most important thing right now is to see the next/prev trackpoint button row when the panel is pulled down to its smaller version. (The layout probably could benefit from other changes but that's perhaps a different issue)
I have two edit... three other inquiries about the trackpoint navigation.
a) Afteer using it for a while, I think additional +10 buttons would be nicer. Press+hold works, but requires a bit of reaction to stop. Also, navigating is faster if we can very quickly press +10. There's enough horizontal space imo.
b) Shouldn't the zoom buttons move on top of the panel? Sometimes I want to zoom and zooming with 2 fingers is a no-no, because this moves map easily, but I need to keep the precise center.
c) "Jump to trackpoint" possibilities would be useful! Super useful! Currently too clunky, via the elevation graph. Jump to all interesting extrema like vmax, hmin, hmax.
I have two edit... three other inquiries about the trackpoint navigation.
a) Afteer using it for a while, I think additional +10 buttons would be nicer. Press+hold works, but requires a bit of reaction to stop. Also, navigating is faster if we can very quickly press +10. There's enough horizontal space imo.
b) Shouldn't the zoom buttons move on top of the panel? Sometimes I want to zoom and zooming with 2 fingers is a no-no, because this moves map easily, but I need to keep the precise center.
c) "Jump to trackpoint" possibilities would be useful! Super useful! Currently too clunky, via the elevation graph. Jump to all interesting extrema like vmax, hmin, hmax.
I like it better now. The jumping is gone now.
I think press and hold works well. If +10, then only as an extra button. But then you can increase the jumps in Press and Hold to 30 points.
As already mentioned, the coordinates in the analysis screen are not very important. You could make the coordinates all the way down and "Created (date / time)" in this place. Created information is much more important.
I like it better now. The jumping is gone now.
I think press and hold works well. If +10, then only as an extra button. But then you can increase the jumps in Press and Hold to 30 points.
As already mentioned, the coordinates in the analysis screen are not very important. You could make the coordinates all the way down and "Created (date / time)" in this place. Created information is much more important.
Hi guys,
I'm just thinking about what to do with this task, and
Changes I just made:
Bigger changes should really need a bigger re-design. That's probably all I want to do with it for now. Thanks for understanding.
Menion
Hi guys,
I'm just thinking about what to do with this task, and
Changes I just made:
Bigger changes should really need a bigger re-design. That's probably all I want to do with it for now. Thanks for understanding.
Menion
I think it's so good. But everyone wants to do something different with this screen.
I think it's so good. But everyone wants to do something different with this screen.
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