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Category Locus Map (Android)

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Application Locus Map 3 Classic

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Support RouteYou web Via AND Shaping Points by the trackpoint <type>.

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Promote the Planner Points Via or Shaping 100% unambiguously by the gpx <type>

Example Locus track download from the RouteYou webplanner here:

https://download.routeyou.com/ns9mw7cv2bw865ae2yqap389gewxnm8e/route/10453298.gpx?language=nl&format=locusmap&pois=0

The RouteYou webplanner now generates both Via Points and Shaping Points in the gpx export.

The distinction between the two Planner Points is marked as follows.

Via Points are with <name> <cmt> <sym>pass_place and <type>Via.

Shaping Points are with <cmt> <sym>pass_place and <type>Shaping.

Also is a best compatible solution for the current Locus versions:

All Planner Points appear as Via Points in the current Locus versions.

Shaping Points without a <name> so do trigger TTS 'silent' Via Points.

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0709 ●

In Route You web > select downloaden > Locus map.

https://www.routeyou.com/nl-be/route/view/10453298/racefietsroute/berlare

And find the download Locus gpx file in attachment here ;-)

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0709 ●

A Shaping Point = A 'muted' Via Point.

By <type> Shaping "mute" ALL navigation announcements belonging to the track point.

https://t.ly/l1Un

Find in this (2p) doc at the end of page 1 next

Not Announced Shaping Point @Navigate. (Green triangle in the Locus Route Planner)

- Planner Reference and Navigation Target.

- Navigation trackpoint by <cmt> & <sym>pass_place & <type>Shaping.

- Shaping points by <type>Shaping act like “MUTED” Via Points @ navigation.

- No sound announcement nor by TTS nor voice (morse) tones, no Icon display, no top panel text, no auto display on.

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Steffen_MK ●

Only if the planned via points as well as the shaping points are output in the gpx file, can a route exported as a GPX file be reloaded with a planning programme and further processed (extended, changed). That is why I think it is very important and makes sense to keep and export shaping and via points differentiated in an export file.

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0709 ●

In recent Locus map the "pass_place_silent" is available, so the suggestion is to use it also this way.

A trkpt containing the following:

<sym>pass_place</sym> then results into the Locus app like:

<locus:rtePointAction>pass_place</locus:rtePointAction>.

A trkpt containing the following:

<sym>pass_place</sym> PLUS <type>Via</type> then results into the Locus app like: <locus:rtePointAction>pass_place</locus:rtePointAction>.

A trkpt containing the following:

<sym>pass_place</sym> PLUS <type>Shaping</type> then results into the Locus app like: <locus:rtePointAction>pass_place_silent</locus:rtePointAction>.

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Menion ●

Hi Willy,

oki, in next version, "Shaping" type will make via points = silent. Thanks

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0709 ●

Thanks.

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0709 ●

The test result is fine and as expected.

The Route You Shaping Points are effectively not announced and the functionality as a route Planner Point remains so intact.

To know.

- In the Route You combination by "sym U-turn plus type Shaping or Via", the functionality as a route Planner Point is not preserved.

Locus navigation announces an imported U-turn but anyway the Locus route planner itself does not generate U-turns due to a Shaping or Via Point trigger. If one so want a U-turn announcement to be produced in the Locus route planner that specific instruction must be added in the <name>text in an announced Via Point.

This is because specifically the Locus route planner creates multiple consecutive single start-stop calculated individual "segments" between the Shaping or Via Points. These segments are than joined together into a gpx single trkseg track file .

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0709 ●

"Quote". In the Route You combination by "sym U-turn plus type Shaping or Via", the functionality as a route Planner Point is not preserved.

Hi Menion.

Thanks again for that very fine functional newest realisation.

And it is currently already very convenient to be used this way.

Although I had planned it slightly differently, well to say a little bit ;-)

Namely.

That <type>Shaping or Via directly promotes a track point to a navigation waypoint, just like a corresponding correct <sym> does.

Advantage:

This would then make it so possible to import any<sym>.

Together with the <type> any<sym> as a stowaway would than enter Locus map.

Roger ?

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Menion ●

Hi Willy,

well, to be true, I do not understand precisely. One more try please :).

Currently, if "sym" specify any action other then "Pass place", "type" value won't have any effect I expect ...

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0709 ●

If the <sym>text is correct, trackpoints will be promoted and imported into Locus navigation as turnpoints or by a <sym>pass_place as planner point.

Desired extra is:

Provided by <type>Shaping or Via, trackpoints are promoted and imported into Locus navigation as a planner point. (Independently of the <sym>text)

The original import file.

22_Barel_Navtrkpt_Locus.gpx

Advantage 1. (Important)

The Routeyou planner generates a <sym> U-turn together with <type>Via (Shaping) in a track point.

- After importing in current Locus map you will get the U-turn but the planner point will so be lost.

- Expected result.

Import and keep both the U-turn and the planner point intact.

Target in "navigate to point" mode and a re-route planner point.

Advantage 2. (Not very important )

Together with <type>Via or Shaping import any <sym> in the Locus navigation.

- Expected result.

Together with a Shaping or Via point you can for example import a "Danger Area" Icon.

By next hocus-pocus demo file see what is desired also by the original import file.

22_Barel_Navtrkpt_hocus_pocus_Locus.gpx

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Menion ●

Hi Willy,

understand. Unfortunately, this is technically not possible. A single point can't be a "navigation command" (turn etc.) and the "via point" at once, sorry.

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0709 ●

Understood and not surprised by the reply. Apparently it is a challenge.

I had the same answer before by another dev of a different app.

Until than suddenly found the perfect solution. Technically possible.

U-turn and Via (Shaping) point are both snapped to the track and osm street pattern.

The 180° U-turn and triggering Via track point do share the exact same track position

;-) ;-)

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0709 ●

Hi Menion.

After sure successful tests, one small remark. As with the <sym> please also <type> case insensitive.

Both the type "Via <=> via" or the type "Shaping <=> shaping" are thus valid.

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Menion ●

Hi Willy, ah you are correct of course, thanks fixed.

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