Chart of Track versus Route

Stephan shared this question 8 months ago
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Starting route planer -> Creating a route -> Route Menu -> Route Stats ->chart -> Creating a point tapping on the graph.

It is not possible, that this point is viewed on the map, because there is no mapbutton (route.png)


Tracks-> Going to a folder ->Tapping on a track -> Chart -> Creating a point tapping on the graph.


It is possible to show this point on the map, beause there is a additional mapbutton (Track.png)


Design, bug or a mistake by me?

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Hi Stephan,

- it is not possible to create points on route by tapping the route stats graph. You can add points only by adding them on map (more at https://docs.locusmap.eu/doku.php?id=manual:user_guide:tracks:planning)

- by tapping chart of a ready made track and selecting the "show on map" button you just show the tapped trackpoint on the map, you don't create a new waypoint.

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We are lost in translation. If I am tapping on the graph, then a point is appearing on the graph.


 


Please follow my description and compare the two attached screenshots. Use the button I marked yellow.


 


Von: Locus Map <locus.map@asamm.com>

Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Februar 2019 09:58

An: Stephan <zitzmann.stephan@gmx.de>

Betreff: New Comment in "Chart Track verus Route"

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Have a look on the red marked point in the screenshot. This points are appearing if I am tapping on the graph.

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I see, you would like the same "show on map" button in the route planner stat chart. I'll tell Menion.

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Yes please. I think it would be very nice. Because so it is very easy to avoid very steep section.

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Good day Stephan,

sorry, but due to some technical complications, it is not easily doable. Anyway, you may simply display chart at bottom of the screen, where you may see details of the currently planned route. You may also apply "gradient" coloring on the chart to see changes even better directly in the map. Are you aware of it? Please check our latest blog post focused on this topic: https://www.locusmap.eu/locus-map-plan-your-routes-like-a-pro/

Does this help?

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Thank you. I am aware of the other possibilities. My main point was steepness. Having precise numbers is better than colours. But I did not find a explanation, which colour means wich degree of slope/incline.

Using the chart of the route stats is also more easier than the bottom chart, if one is planning a longdistance trips. 100 km for a day with a bicycle.

For example, try to figure out the three steepest part of the attached file with your suggested tools, than try it, with the chart editor of the track section.

Alternative solution would be, that the bottom chart is zoomable and have a slopechart.

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Hi Stephan,

the colors correspond to light spectre colors - the lowest frequency (red) to lowest steepness, the highest frequency (purple) to highest steepness.

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Hi Michal,


Thank you for this explanation. But what is the steepness range for the colours

Is it the range

  1. of steepness of the track/route
  2. of possible steepness of official traffic roads (0% - 33%)
  3. of possibe steepness of all possible ways (0%- ?%)

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Hi Stephan,

as the coloring is preference of the track style (planned/recorded etc.), it describes progress of the track, whether it goes along a road or in free terrain.

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Thank you but sorry, this answer does not help me.


I know my steepness limit. 11% with luggage / 17% without luggage.


How do I get the information with the colours this is steeper than 11% respectively 17%. For other users is the question, how do they figure out their numbers, which are different of mine.

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Stephan, you can define manually what values are related to your use - go to route planner menu > settings > line style > slope > tap the "pencil" > select "manual" and define your personally preferred values. I hope this will finally help?

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Hi Michal,

Steepness is a problem in both direction. Up and down. If I am using -20% and +17% than are two colors reserved for values under -20% and above 17%. Five colours are for a range of 37% percent. One colour cover a range of 7%. And green the colour of the middle of the spectrum cover a range with downhill and uphill parts.

I can filter out odd sections with choosing appropriate values. But this is not a practical approach.

Edit: There is another disadvantage of the colour system. Very steep sections are mainly short. This sections disappear by zooming out. So you need a high zoomlevel to recognize this sections. Follow a track or route of 100km with a high zoomlevel to see the steep sections.

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Hi Stephan,

I've noticed I gave you an incorrect information about route slope-coloring - my greatest apologies! The used palette is this: https://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads9/59f74e0321d1b/59f74e031e8ef-15_color_palette.png. When you use relative coloring, this palette stretches along the whole route - the red tones are steepest uphill, the navy tones are downhill. If you set manual coloring and define own limits, the palette stretches among the limits and the rest of the route stays in the default line color.

Michal