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Point icon on navigation screen

trinitii shared this idea 6 years ago
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I want some feature which can display icon(s) of TCX on Navigation Screen.


1) On navigation screen,

Icon such as LEFT, RIGHT, STRAIGHT is displayed, but most of other icons such as Generic, Summit, Valley, Water, Food etc is NOT displayed.I want these icons will be displayed on Navigation Screen.

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2) Just like other navigation (for car),I want a current icon + next icon (distance after current icon) is displayed somewhere on screen (e.g. below current icon)It helps for user to prepare the next situaiton.

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I hope these two features will be implemented.Thank you very much.

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Good day trinitii, Willy,


I was just fixing some issue in navigation and because "next navigation command" was something I wanted for some time (I'm almost sure that here on help desk exists a topic with this feature-request), I said "why not".


Here is a result together with your wanted icon for via-point as a small badge. Icon is just a small badge mainly because these icons are available in really low resolution and even on screenshot is clearly visible that "red flag" is not perfectly sharp.


So, should be? ;)


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Hi Trinity,

I can support your first part of the idea. So I add a 0,5 + vote OK ?

But for the second part I have some reservations.

As I also want to keep enough free space to see the map.

By not covering the whole display with too many Icons.

Preferably not making the actual direction indicator smaller.

As that indicator now is also a nice active Big button.

So I do not reject, but just wait opinion of more users.

I suppose you know in advanced settings: Double instruction.

A next nearby (<100m) Nav instructions also is announced by TTS ?

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Good day trinitii, Willy,


I was just fixing some issue in navigation and because "next navigation command" was something I wanted for some time (I'm almost sure that here on help desk exists a topic with this feature-request), I said "why not".


Here is a result together with your wanted icon for via-point as a small badge. Icon is just a small badge mainly because these icons are available in really low resolution and even on screenshot is clearly visible that "red flag" is not perfectly sharp.


So, should be? ;)


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Menion that's incredibly fast !

For me it's not important, no need, as I noticed this proposal already in tcx forum discussion tread for some time.

But if Trinity asks, and it can be done, I have no reason to reject this.

I see one negative vote for now, but no comment ?

So Trinity welcome and be invited to see some of my other recent idea's about flexible adding via priority points and or adding free named info priority points by tcx<Generic> or gpx <flag>

Direct applicable in the Locus app and without need for external program.

If you like such idea pse vote + , if not vote - and add a comment or suggest eventual improvement.

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This is great! Thanks

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Thank you very much!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I'm very happy that my idea is accepted and looking forward to next riding with locus!

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I also like the idea of displaying the "next navigation command"! However, this feature does not seem to work in current Beta 3.18.9.4, should it? The changelog suggests the Beta has support for it.

Or do I maybe have to enable it first? I did not find a way to enable it in the UI.

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For me it worked out of the box. In attachment: my testcircuit.

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Aaaha during this comment edit I found !

Must set: In Navigation -> Advanced settings -> Tow commands at once: SET !

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Hello zosenbart, Willy (0709) observation is correct. Feature is controlled by also by "Two commands at once" settings in advanced navigation settings.

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Thanks for the hint. It's working now.

However, if it is dependant on "Two commands at once" setting enabled, I will almost never use it, because I normally use Samual (Morse code) voice for bike navigation and with this the "two commands at once" announcement gets very annoying and confusing...

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Hello, understand. To be true, I'm not 100% sure this is best solution. I was just thinking about ability to disable this extra UI feature. I'll think about it before release and maybe I put this option as separate settings into config.cfg file. Thanks for opinion.

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"Two commands at once"

Display: Keep double display notation as the new standard view. This extra field has very correct dimensions no to large not to small. Good job !

Audio: Double notation displayed, allows to minimize audio announcements by settable trigger distance.

via config.cfg

# set maximum trigger distance for "two commands at once" in meter. (default: 150).

maximum trigger distance two commands at once =25.

@ Zossebart ? Opinion ?

By Morse: Double Morse sign ? = WARNING ! A Zic/Zac ! (L/R or R/L combination)

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Thanks for opinion Willy. Fine, I'll enable this into second version permanently.

Based on testing and feedback later, I'll add parameter to config that disable this second command in UI.

And maximum trigger distance is currently set to 200 metres. Is it needed to modify it? From my experience it's optimal.

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Ok tnx for that more exact info 200m ;-) I figured out by real drives the annoucement at least was > +100m. About the trigger distance...Indeed is no problem for a very nice TTS instruction announcement. (Optimal yes)

But Zossebart prefer to use Morse announcement . If a remember correct = he is MTB cyclist mainly.

Using the most "LOUD and CLEAR" compact Morse sign to be used in "noisy" MTB drive conditions !

A double notation announcement for a next turn instance (very) far away is indeed rather confusing.

I think however for MTB usage it is instructive to hear, by the double morse sign announcement, that soon a complicated "short turn" combination is arriving next.

Well, me as a tourist cyclist thinks so, but I am only an imaginary or virtual MTB cyclist of coarse !

So maybe lets wait the comment of some real MTB cyclists !

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You are right, Willi, maybe a special morse code sign for "zigzag ahead" would be useful. But that's a little bit off-topic here.

But I'm also fine with disabling the double audio notification for now.

As I understand it, in the final version, double visual sign enabled and double audio notification disabled will be possible?

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Yep. current solution: double visual notification will be enabled permanently without option to disable. Sound notification remains as is now.

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@ Menion = only informative = no action to do ;-).

(Off topic).

@ Zossebart. Only one MTB cyclist active in the Locus forum ? ;-)

To create a special morse sign for zic/zac turns is not possible seems to me.

Such double short sequenced announcement should only occur IF distance between 2 next turns is < 25m or even < 20m, or so already creates you that "special" sound announcement of a next Zic/Zac turn L/R or R/L.

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First of all, I really thank you for implementing "next navigation command". It helps me a lot especially on long distance riding.


I made a tcx course file nearby my house, and tested it.


It works fine, But I hope


1) In this command area(upper), All of icons(badges) in TCX will NOT be displayed. Summit, Water(?) icon is displayed well, but others(food, valley, ...) does NOT displayed. All of icons(badges) in map area is displayed well.


2) In next command area(lower), NONE of badges is displayed. I hope badge will be displayed in next command area just like this command area(upper)


Thank you very much.

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Good day trinitii,

you are welcome!

1) please share with me some file for test

2) I wanted to wrote that this is not possible, but I'll think about it. It's true that icon of point instead of generic "via point" icon, should be more useful.

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So topic not yet completed ;-)

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There is really low number of topics that I consider as fully finished.


EDIT: if any :)

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I think I see the problem.

http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=4178.msg32090#msg32090

Out of the 16 Coursepoints: Except L/R/S, the 13 other Coursepoints are Locus Priority Points. (Have the encircled dot symbol)

If Coursepoint sequence is: PriorityPoint -> PriorityPoint -> PriorityPoint:

Than only first symbol keeps displayed or no next Symbol change is shown.

In a series of Priority Points: Using a divider (by or Left or Right or Straight ) than all next Points are displayed correct.

See attached file. The divider between Priority Points in use here : A "Straight"

Test: Navigate by the well known test system, virtual moving position by map center shift.

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Thank you Willy, appreciate your help. Issue found and fixed!


Also improved second navigation symbol so in these cases (via points with own icon), this icon will be visible instead of "circle dot symbol".

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Thank you 0709, Menion heartily !!!!!

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