Improve style of navigation route for complicated routes

0709 shared this idea 44 days ago
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Strict protects against unexpected navigation jumps to self-crossing track sections, caused by GPS position tolerances. Current strict navigation mode means every single trackpoint to be consumed one by one. When missing (gps unlock tunnel) even a single track point, the navigation hangs or is paused. To continue the operator MUST re-trigger navigation action by a manual nearest point intervention.

More comfortable strict navigation mode by:


NEW. @ Strict Navigation selection.

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Mark the nearest target section (free set) xxx meter ahead by different intensity or colour or form.

Activate only the target section for navigation actions to prevent too large distance jumps to "later in time" self-crossing track sections.


Idea source & discussion here:

https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/fenix-6-series/191773/why-is-it-so-hard-to-follow-a-self-crossing-course/976382#976382

Comments (13)

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The biggest problem is in the beginning. Later, the area you have already driven is no longer displayed as a wide line.

Even with good navigation instructions, it is a problem. There comes a statement "turn right"

But there are 2 ways to go right. And at the beginning of the tour I use the one and the end of the tour the other.

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Hi,

as this is a new feature request, I'm making an idea from it.

best regards

Michal, Locus team

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The hide is a possibility. Another would be at the fork mark the first way with a red arrow and a 1 in it. And the second way with a 2nd Whether Lokus sowas auto recognize I do not know.

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Ideally in combination with this topic

https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/partially-hide-navigation-track

Here we also have crossings of the track. This topic is more about visual tracking. Navigation instructions come but the on the map is not clear which lane I have to follow. Example: turn right but there are 2 ways to the right. And both are part of the track

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Ah so, I did miss that contribution. So is very very similar to the problem as was posted in the Garmin forum. Okido, so find the visual part of this suggestion and proposal by the gif file demo I will attach here. Even without any direction arrow shown on top of this complex track no problem to see the next traject.

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What is the optimal target track range in real use ? Optimal = FREE set xxx m target distance.

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Hi guys,

thanks Willy for an interesting idea. I've spent some time on it and here is the result. Is it clear which color/style means what?

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Do you mean the thicker+solid magenta route compared to the slightly thinner+more transparent magenta? It's not clear to me. Maybe on a office computer monitor it's OK but would be hard to distinguish on a phone in sunshine. Is this related to my observation in this thread?

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Yes. What I try to do here is to split styling of navigation route into three segments

- part I've already passed (internally called "before")

- part just before me, currently playing with distance equals to the longer side of the map screen ("after1")

- part fart away before me which is usually not visible on the screen, except cases of the more complicated route, like on the screenshot ("after2")

I believe that the difference between "after1" and "after2" does not need to be huge, so on the screenshot, it is only in the thin border and little transparency.

This that we need a bigger difference?

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I'm a little confused

in your screen cap there are sections ahead with thick "after1" & thin "after2" styles but don't correspond to close/ far away

or to put it another way, thick style "after1" is close and far away

for me "before" is not so important, it just adds to visual clutter, because there is a recorded track too

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I think "after1" and "after2" need to be more distinguishable, but have no good idea how to do it. Maybe also change the color of the arrows?

I agree that "before" is not so important.

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1. Special (MTB) display mode only shown @ strict navigate selection.

2. I promote the Most simple basic uncomplicated display mode as in .gif example.


To test and report = by real operational users.

Regards from the snowy Austrian Alps !

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My idea 5 months ago describes exactly what 0709 shows in its gif. Arrows are not as good but better than nothing. Since it is only necessary in a few tours, you should be able to select it as an option. the topic can also be brought together with this.

https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/partially-hide-navigation-track

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Oki, thanks. I made a bigger difference between segment right before you (after1) and segment in "far future (after2).

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@freischneider

that's the exactly same problem, thanks for pointing on it, I'll merge these topics.

@0709

I think, we do not have to focus only on "Strict" navigation mode. This is generally a problem in cases, the track is not just a straight line.

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No problem. Looks good.

So is a very usefull indicator, even when commands (arrows) are missing on top of a track.

I suppose the critical issue with even missing one single trackpoint (for any reason) @ strict is also to be optimised ?

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very nice

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A realisation by Locus Pro Map 3.44.3. See video demo by virtual gps replay.

https://youtu.be/R9BY9BQg7JM

Even without turn commands (Arrows and TTS) should allow correct navigation.

Find the Locus gpx navigation file in attachment.

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Hello Willy,

from quicker check of your video, all looks correct. Am I wrong?

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Correct

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