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How to remove red arrows on GPX route import?

Daniel Fretto shared this question 3 years ago
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I've just started using Locus Map Pro for Android because it has a companion app for my Samsung Gear S3. I downloaded a GPX (attached) from Alltrails website. When I open this GPX in Locus on my phone the route or track line (unclear on the acceptable terms) is visible but along with it are those annoying red arrows. These pretty much suck on my Note 9 but make the map unusable on my Gear S3....small screen and all. I've read a few posts here about this issue but so far they're all a few years old and frankly really complicated and convoluted.

Isn't there an easy way to remove these red arrows?

Thanks in advance.

https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/washington/mount-adams-south-climb-trail

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Hi Daniel,

the arrows were rendered by some specific setting of the export from Alltrails. To get rid of them, export the route in Locus to GPX again and make sure in the advanced export settings dialog that "Export for navigation" option is NOT checked. Then re-import the newly exported GPX to Locus again.When Locus asks you if some points should be overwritten, then overwrite them.

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Thanks Michal! I don't see the option you suggest. I've tried a couple alterations to some of the export settings with no luck but really I'm shooting in the dark. I also reached out to Alltrails and await a reply. I'm pretty sure these red arrows are waypoints and why there are so many I've no clue.

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Route download by alltrails is a gpx (rte) route. Locus map do expect gpx (trk) tracks.

Solution: Convert the (rte) route into a (trk) track. By Basecamp or other ANY other availabe program. (pc)

https://support.alltrails.com/hc/en-us/articles/360022875531-How-do-I-import-a-GPX-file-I-ve-downloaded-to-my-GPS-device-


Notice also this older Locus topic. (1 vote only !)

https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/importing-routes-without-arrows

A simple fast conversion from (rte) route into a (trk) track is not offered by Locus map.

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Find a convert result by freeware gpx editor (pc) in attachment

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Thanks a million. As much as I'd like a trouble free method to have a map on both my Android and watch I guess it's too much to ask at this point. It's relatively common to decide to change routes for multiple reasons and having a laptop around isn't an option.

Anyone know of a decent Android GPX editor? The ones on the play store look pretty dodgy. Thanks again!

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Hi Daniel.


Ok...but maybe let's wait and see if Menion (Locus main developper) reads this topic.

I suppose a direct simple Locus conversion from route to track is sure possible.


But ooh well ...... someone has to ask ;-)

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That would be incredibly cool for sure. Alltrails has tons of stuff for me here in the Pacific Northwest. I should check out some of the running sites/apps too...maybe Garmin or Strada. Maybe one of those will be trk rather than rte?

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That's cool but mainly for cycling. No summit routes.

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Hi Daniel,

your screenshot - the option "track to route" - leave it unchecked and export to GPX. Then import the GPX back to Locus. I know, it's a bit laborious but it solves your problem. You can export multiple routes from Alltrails this way.

Michal

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Example: Other import variants are possible.

But import method should keep the info waypoints !


@Michal. An example. (Variants)

Sure such results indeed in a track AND multiple waypoints !


A. The (trept) routepoints are converted into wpt's (DELETE of HIDE)

B. Informative waypoints. (KEEP)


Reimport.

A. Separate track and ALL points into Track folder and a Point folder. Import: Do NOT Set: Merge points with imported track !

B. Sort_filter ALL points. Delete or hide the unessary points > Keep informative waypoints.


Off desk, while in the field, a complicated method for a probably easy to solve comfortable route (rte) import.


Advantage: A Locus convert from route to track does not separate the merged "track_infowaypoints" into separated track+points folder.

Probably (maybe ?) more optimal direct transfer into a Garmin watch ? No idea...(Jan > Wearsoft ? )

Opinion Menion ? I did observe your comment ;-)

I personally do not like separating into tracks / routes. Nothing like this exists in Czech and we are really fine :).

Anyway direct (rte) route (by multiple rtept's) is the only available export method by some US/GB websites :-((

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@Michel,


"your screenshot - the option "track to route" - leave it unchecked and export to GPX. Then import the GPX back to Locus."


This didn't work. Thanks though. Were you able to remove the red arrows from the gpx I uploaded by applying this method? If so, why won't it work for me?

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In the above attached PDF (not sure who commented there) I followed the directions. Initially the only difference from previous attempts was the GPX version which was set to 1.1...the PDF indicated exporting in 1.0, which I did. The Track opened without the red arrows! Unfortunately there are no waypoints at all.


Speaking of which, how did you display the cool waypoints with the information displaying on the map? When I reviewed the waypoints before exporting in version 1.0 I didn't see them at all, only basic waypoints.


Also, I didn't see any way to check them and delete all like it shows in your PDF.

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Sorry Daniel. The (graphical) result sure looks ok, but the pdf was not an instruction.


Is adressed to @Michal (Locus team member), a showcase of complex not user friendly method. Also I do not like the separation of track and (info)waypoints into a track folder and a points folder.

I would prefer to *keep (route)or track and his waypoints pure intact (joined), optimal for an export into (new)gpx (track) for easy sharing. Possible by a simple clean convert "rte" into "trk" (thereby keeping the individual (info)wpt's) > = problem solved.

*Also because later rejoining track and his individual "selected" (info)waypoints for a gpx export is not available in Locus. (Old topic > idea request > but never introduced).


@ Daniel.

A. Please be patient ...the Locus team is flexibile and sure "sometimes" introduces wanted new features as fast as lightning.

B. Working with track and points (training) find some info in the nice Locus manual.

https://docs.locusmap.eu/doku.php?id=manual:basics:poisimport > than explore points and tracks instructions > find in the manual > Filter, (un)select, sort, delete, visible (eye) etc..

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Hi Daniel.

While you are in the www condition (wait wait wait).

Any response from Alltrails ? Most optimal solution sure would be a gpx track export (select) by Alltrails.


Anyway I show you another (not user friendly) method how to succesfully change route(rte) into a track(trk) by Notepad.

But you have to be very precise, no typo's nor any mistake, therefore this method is not (mobile) user friendly.


- Difference between (rte)route or (trk)track is minimal.

(Edit By notepad++) (Pc prefer or android...high end phone otherwise slooooow)

- Find and replace (ALL) rte into trk > than add trkseg > Add <trkseg> before the first trkpt and add </trkseg> after the last trkpt.

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Find pdf here. (Will be removed after 7 days)

https://we.tl/t-kCCsL1jUHq

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Thanks for the PDF. I doubt I'll go to this length but ya never know. I do have a screamin Android (note 9) so it's doable...as mentioned, not user friendly...at least for this user.

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Here's what Garmin said:


"We've seen this issue with Garmin Basecamp, as the program often reads each data point as a waypoint. I'm not familiar with Locus Map Pro, but I would imagine the steps to update would be similar. Do you have the option to change the route to a track? Here is an FAQ about how to do it within Garmin Basecamp, but this would be my general recommendation: How do I import a GPX file I've downloaded to my GPS device?


1) Open the Garmin Basecamp application


2) Click on the file that you would like to update


3) On the lower portion of the left column, the title will appear in the white bar with a settings wheel next to it


4) Below the bar, right click on the arrow (which will have a number next to it) and select 'Create Track from Route'. A new layer will be created marked with footprints, rather than an arrow.


5) Right click on the arrow again and select 'Delete' to remove the layer from your view


There is not currently a way to export GPX files on the app. My apologies for the inconvenience."


I'll reach out to them again and suggest more export options. Thanks.

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Also, I've been searching through instructions all over the website and still don't see mention of the bad ass waypoints with the display tags...love those things. I'll keep looking. I mean, this app is totally sick, I see that now. So many options...but simple it ain't 🤪


I'm patient and totally fine waiting for any and all suggestions and/or improvements. Which along those lines, I wonder if the Samsung gear app will have more functionality at some point? Specifically the option to record a track?

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@ Daniel. New Idea proposal > Please add your + vote here.

https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/import-menu-route-to-track

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Voted as suggested, thanks

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Hi Daniel.

Did you already have a test by the latest Locus Pro version ? Locus v 3.39.2.

"Alltrails" route display by Locus map should be ok now.

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