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Your application is a very good. But has big disadvantage. one must always be connected to the Internet for its calculation for navigation. and in some places they receive no internet and in this state the application is unfortunately useless.
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I like this idea 
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Hi Calogero
Where is the idea behind your post?
>Calogero shared this idea:
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Hi Calogero
Where is the idea behind your post?
Locus combined with "Co-App" BRouter provide offline navigation, even on small foot paths. A rather good howto is http://www.com-magazin.de/praxis/android/offline-routing-rad-wandertouren-465807.html (if you don't understand German, use Google Translate or the like).
@Menion: Calogero's question shows that an even nicer integration between Locus and BRouter (or other offline routing Apps) would help users to exploit all the possibilities. Just one idea: Where users choose routing source, a button "add more routing engines" could exist, list possible/supported engines, and offer to call an installation/configuration wizard, so starts Google Play BRouter page,..
Locus combined with "Co-App" BRouter provide offline navigation, even on small foot paths. A rather good howto is http://www.com-magazin.de/praxis/android/offline-routing-rad-wandertouren-465807.html (if you don't understand German, use Google Translate or the like).
@Menion: Calogero's question shows that an even nicer integration between Locus and BRouter (or other offline routing Apps) would help users to exploit all the possibilities. Just one idea: Where users choose routing source, a button "add more routing engines" could exist, list possible/supported engines, and offer to call an installation/configuration wizard, so starts Google Play BRouter page,..
there is also a graphhopper plugin, and on my opinion it is beter.
there is also a graphhopper plugin, and on my opinion it is beter.
As mentioned in another Locus topic there is a good comparison of routers at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Routing/online_routers.
When I last looked at Graphhopper routing files they had not been updated in last 4+ months whereas Brouter is updated weekly, so I decided only for that reason not to use Graphhopper. Does anyone else find Graphhopperbetter than Brouter?
The online version of Brouter often displays an "error - from-position not mapped" which seems to be a bug. Sometimes it works, sometimes not, although the from-position I use as a test definitely would be mapped.
Here is an example where Brouter calculates a stupid very long route (in purple) even though I specify "shortest" profile. I will try to ask in the Brouter forum too:
Some offline GPS - Sygic, Copilot, Mapfactor Navigator - all have their routing engine integrated direct in the app, so none of these issues occur, and the offline routing works much better than in Locus. Mapfactor Navigator in particular seems to have much better offline routing for cycling routes.
As mentioned in another Locus topic there is a good comparison of routers at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Routing/online_routers.
When I last looked at Graphhopper routing files they had not been updated in last 4+ months whereas Brouter is updated weekly, so I decided only for that reason not to use Graphhopper. Does anyone else find Graphhopperbetter than Brouter?
The online version of Brouter often displays an "error - from-position not mapped" which seems to be a bug. Sometimes it works, sometimes not, although the from-position I use as a test definitely would be mapped.
Here is an example where Brouter calculates a stupid very long route (in purple) even though I specify "shortest" profile. I will try to ask in the Brouter forum too:
Some offline GPS - Sygic, Copilot, Mapfactor Navigator - all have their routing engine integrated direct in the app, so none of these issues occur, and the offline routing works much better than in Locus. Mapfactor Navigator in particular seems to have much better offline routing for cycling routes.
what I don't like in brouter is downloading square-like areas instead of separate countries. In graphhopper you simply select the country you need and download. From pure offline navigators I use osmand+.
what I don't like in brouter is downloading square-like areas instead of separate countries. In graphhopper you simply select the country you need and download. From pure offline navigators I use osmand+.
Thanks Vitaliy - yes downloading each Brouter 5 degree x 5 degree file is tedious and error prone. What about the "accuracy" of offline routing in GraphHopper though? For pure offline routing I gave up with osmand+ because very slow and less useful interface compared to Locus Pro.
Thanks Vitaliy - yes downloading each Brouter 5 degree x 5 degree file is tedious and error prone. What about the "accuracy" of offline routing in GraphHopper though? For pure offline routing I gave up with osmand+ because very slow and less useful interface compared to Locus Pro.
I have used brouter in oruxmaps only and the accuracy for me was not acceptable. when I cycle, I make a shortcuts sometime through yards and near-house roads. With brouter I was not able to correctly create a route. Instead of it, the graphhopper did it well. However graphhopper sometimes creates stupid routs and when the rout is quite long it may show err message. I would use brouter with pleasure, but this square areas....arh!
I have used brouter in oruxmaps only and the accuracy for me was not acceptable. when I cycle, I make a shortcuts sometime through yards and near-house roads. With brouter I was not able to correctly create a route. Instead of it, the graphhopper did it well. However graphhopper sometimes creates stupid routs and when the rout is quite long it may show err message. I would use brouter with pleasure, but this square areas....arh!
Thanks Vitaliy - I am still only learning about the routing engines, and OSM. I just discovered from my original example of a terrible route, that the OSM database had incorrect data. It was not the fault of GraphHopper or Brouter. The bad route was avoiding a roundabout that had been marked as motorway and bicycles=no. This was incorrect. I've now fixed it.
I imagine the update will propagate to Brouter files within a week, but as I said if I were using GraphHopper the last update was 4 months ago, and may not be updated ever. Who knows when?
That is the risk for Locus, having to rely on a 3rd party app for important functionality.
Thanks Vitaliy - I am still only learning about the routing engines, and OSM. I just discovered from my original example of a terrible route, that the OSM database had incorrect data. It was not the fault of GraphHopper or Brouter. The bad route was avoiding a roundabout that had been marked as motorway and bicycles=no. This was incorrect. I've now fixed it.
I imagine the update will propagate to Brouter files within a week, but as I said if I were using GraphHopper the last update was 4 months ago, and may not be updated ever. Who knows when?
That is the risk for Locus, having to rely on a 3rd party app for important functionality.
In my experience one advantage of BRouter compared to GraphHopper is the former allows the text script/ profile to be modified by an "ordinary" user. On advise from the BRouter forum I was able to change the "cost" of using motorways so that my cycling route preferred the motorway instead of a silly little gravel track. These sorts of little tweaks are not possible with GraphHopper because all the logic is inside Java code. The GraphHopper developer said in their forum he may consider adding text scripts in the future, but is not possible at present.
My point from 2 months ago "That is the risk for Locus, having to rely on a 3rd party app for important functionality." is that a 3rd party developer may change their routing engine in ways that are of no advantage to Locus, or even break routing/ make it incompatible, or decide to stop further development. There are at least 5 Android GPS apps (CoPilot, Garmin, Mapfactor, Sygic, HERE) that use their own internal routing engine, so their quality and testing and navigation will be fully integrated (one would hope) in their app. This means routing and height files need not be duplicated. Additional confusing downloads aren't required. A fully integrated solution. I must say that from a cyclist point of view BRouter and GraphHopper are still better than those 5 apps because BR & GH can take into account elevation. They are more cycle rather than car focused,
In my experience one advantage of BRouter compared to GraphHopper is the former allows the text script/ profile to be modified by an "ordinary" user. On advise from the BRouter forum I was able to change the "cost" of using motorways so that my cycling route preferred the motorway instead of a silly little gravel track. These sorts of little tweaks are not possible with GraphHopper because all the logic is inside Java code. The GraphHopper developer said in their forum he may consider adding text scripts in the future, but is not possible at present.
My point from 2 months ago "That is the risk for Locus, having to rely on a 3rd party app for important functionality." is that a 3rd party developer may change their routing engine in ways that are of no advantage to Locus, or even break routing/ make it incompatible, or decide to stop further development. There are at least 5 Android GPS apps (CoPilot, Garmin, Mapfactor, Sygic, HERE) that use their own internal routing engine, so their quality and testing and navigation will be fully integrated (one would hope) in their app. This means routing and height files need not be duplicated. Additional confusing downloads aren't required. A fully integrated solution. I must say that from a cyclist point of view BRouter and GraphHopper are still better than those 5 apps because BR & GH can take into account elevation. They are more cycle rather than car focused,
Hi, any news of http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=4036.msg35377#msg35377 ??
Greetings.
Hi, any news of http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=4036.msg35377#msg35377 ??
Greetings.
Locus addon BRouter navigate offline.
Locus addon BRouter navigate offline.
Moved to Impossible to start navigation from other then GPS location
Moved to Impossible to start navigation from other then GPS location
Hi guys,
I would like to inform, those who do not know, that for more than a year, the Locus Map 4 (Gold Premium tier) has integrated offline navigation based on the BRouter system.
Jiří M. aka Menion
Hi guys,
I would like to inform, those who do not know, that for more than a year, the Locus Map 4 (Gold Premium tier) has integrated offline navigation based on the BRouter system.
Jiří M. aka Menion
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