Remove top line navigation direction icon

Andrew Heard shared this idea 5 years ago
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See icon on left side of top line in screen capture below. The direction (straight ahead) is wrong, and anyway redundant. The correct direction as shown by the bigger icon is Turn Left in 225m. I suggest the top icon be removed. 2f37dc4ca064450c5215b36488c4804a

This particular route was created with RideWithGPS then exported as TCX

Course with turn instruction 50m in advance of the actual turn (although it could have been created within Locus):

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The direction for top icon is only based on geometry of road at the coordinate of the turn instruction, however this coordinate is not always the actual turn, as in this example. Advance turn instructions have advantage (naturally) of giving cyclist more time to prepare for turn.

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+1 agree

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Hello guys,

this is probably small missunderstanding. Or better, wrongly choose icon.

This line display name of street. In case of this icon, it display "current street". If you tap on this line, Locus change icon to small right arrow and it will be street after next navigation command, so "next street". I just wanted to display some information if street name is current street or next.


I'm not sure about second part. There are some problems with using exported TCX track? If so, please share this track with me for test. Thank you.

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@menion - OK thanks for clarification. Disregard "second part" related to TCX track, it's now not relevant to this discussion. I now agree my misunderstanding is just related to the choice of small icon on top line. Choice of straight/ right turn icons to indicate current/ next street is quite confusing, especially when those direction indicators are in same context of bigger direction indicator directly below.

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The above arrow is indeed a VERY functional Button ! ( A misleading Icon ? A better Icon suggestion ?)

See pse by tcx info here: Realised = BOLD !

http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=4178.msg42614#msg42614

And use the small example tcx file in attachment here:

Simulate: Use virtual navigate, by the well known system shifting the center map postion.

In a Coursepoint (By any nice performant router) : Extra Nice Information can be added in the <desc>attribute.

For example a "Streetname" or maybe in a "Future Locus edition" some usefull info delivered by B-router ? Example: "Cobble stones"

In attachment example: Street names available in <desc>:

Little arrow button pointing forward: The information top field line in map display does show you the actual streetname you're driving at.

Little arrow button pointing to the right: The information top field line in map display does show you the streetname AFTER the next direction order.

Actually this extra navigation message is mostly only showing you the: "Unknown street" message" ;-) Not very informative.

Set the navigation instruction in advance. Only necessary for some imperfect (diplomatic talk) Garmin cycling equipment !

As for example when using Edge 705 cycle gps series.

If not advancing this turn information by this trick, users do receive a turnwarning mostly just AFTER passing a turn.

Locus is smarter without such a hack. Locus set the warning at the turn and than generates the navigation message before arriving at the turn. Advanced warning (timing) to be set by personal preference(s) and according to speed in config.cfg.

Advancing all turn indications (L/R/S) 60 meter before turns in a city environment with many small and short streets. Only results in a messy map display. Not nice ! Really not. (I was an Edge 705 user).

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>The above arrow is indeed a VERY functional Button ! ( A misleading Icon ? A better Icon suggestion ?)

@0709 - I didn't even know it WAS a button - there is no UI "cue" to indicate. Surely straight and right arrow icons, which have nothing at all to do with actual navigation, are completely misleading? Maybe icon "(1)" - next street, and "(2)" - street after next, is less misleading? But could also some different background color or other UI trick to indicate the icon can be tapped.

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In Locus exists something that may not be tapped? Most of buttons after years has even another actions on long-click :). Anyway icon will be switched for better one ... small house icon from searching. Bigger for current street and smaller for next street.


Andrew, is here something more I may do here for you now?

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Those house icons sound like an excellent idea. Thanks, nothing more to do (in this topic anyway!)

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Perfect, thanks too.

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@0709 - "Advancing all turn indications (L/R/S) 60 meter before turns in a city

environment with many small and short streets. Only results in a messy

map display. Not nice ! Really not. (I was an Edge 705 user)."


it's completely up to the user of course, for me it is great feature in RWGPS; but really just "side issue" for this topic

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I would have a more radical idea to (by user preference) remove completely all navigation fields so they can be replaced by user's dashboard. This will require dashboard repository includes Next turn symbol field with interactive behaviour (not tap-proof). I could open context menu from it.

With auto-activate dashboard on specific activity, the Locus built-in navigation/guiding dashboard could be completely removed and Locus will create default editable dashboards for navigation and guiding on first init.

By now I have during navigation user dashboard overlayed on top built-in. By my suggestion there would be only one and with less updated fields which I find more clean.

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Hey Bucky Kid - create a new topic - I would vote for it. Most aspects have been discussed elsewhere I think. I would like whole dashboard to depend on current mode of operation. Mapping mode - one set of buttons/ fields; navigation mode - a (possibly) different set of buttons/ fields; default mode - different again. Just show buttons/ fields that are relevant for the current mode of operation.

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I already have created a request for particular extension mentioned in my concept at http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/automatic-dashboard-activation. May be it could be extended to more complex concept posted here,

but on the other hand I'm abstaining from making ideas which are many things in one.

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Interesting idea, thanks for it. Cannot say it's easily doable, but definitely worth considering.


Btw. such very similar idea already exists here: http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/add-different-profiles-for-settings . This cover more then just this case.

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How can I activate the big arrow window?


my config.cfg includes:

map_items_track_highlight_enabled=1

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Sorry 0709! I have got the Computerbild Version: LocusMapProComputerBild_3.46.2_941_release

Allthough I have bought the Pro Version I can't install the most recent version, because there is no google on my Android 5.1.1 (Omni 5.1.1 without any google apps). It's an old Samsung mobile, S3 mini 8190 and along with pico/playstore it would be very slow. No sd card (only locus maps and osmand).

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