I would like to kindly ask for a new features that would hugely help when using Locus Maps for following the GPX route using GUIDANCE (not a Navigation).
1. Separate configuration entry for left and right turns as beeps when following the route.
2. Separate configuration entry for left and right as beeps when out of the route.
I know we can use the Samuel's morse code using Navigation but I don't want to use Navigation and Text-To-Speech functionality as it has some issues when navigating off-road. The "Guidance" however works just perfect and the above enchacements would be very helpful.
Currently using Guidance when I'm following the GPX route I can setup a beep when aproaching turns but when aproaching a fork I don't know whether to turn left or right. Similarly when "Out of the Route".
Thank you very much.
Best Regards for all Locus Maps fans!
Krzysztof
I like this idea 
Hi Krzysztof,
go to Locus settings > Guidance > Notification of next turn > enable it and select beep, own sound or text to speech.
When guiding along an imported route, please be aware that Locus generates voice commands according to the shape of the route line, not according to intersections, because it doesn't know the nods (unlike the router). therefore, sometimes not all turns are announced, or vice versa, some road bends are announced without need.
best regards
Michal, Locus team
Hi Krzysztof,
go to Locus settings > Guidance > Notification of next turn > enable it and select beep, own sound or text to speech.
When guiding along an imported route, please be aware that Locus generates voice commands according to the shape of the route line, not according to intersections, because it doesn't know the nods (unlike the router). therefore, sometimes not all turns are announced, or vice versa, some road bends are announced without need.
best regards
Michal, Locus team
Dear Michał,
Thank you for your response. I'm OK with the fact Locus generates commands according to the shape. I would like to have two separate notifications whether the imported route bends left or right.
Thank you.
Krzysztof
On 5 Aug 2019 09:59, Locus Map <locus.map@asamm.com> wrote:
Dear Michał,
Thank you for your response. I'm OK with the fact Locus generates commands according to the shape. I would like to have two separate notifications whether the imported route bends left or right.
Thank you.
Krzysztof
On 5 Aug 2019 09:59, Locus Map <locus.map@asamm.com> wrote:
Hi Krzystof,
set text-to-speech as your guidance alert - it will announce where to go right ot left.
best regards
Michal
Hi Krzystof,
set text-to-speech as your guidance alert - it will announce where to go right ot left.
best regards
Michal
Following GPX route with turns left/right works great in navigation but not with guidance with beeps. I thought I would like to configure 2 beeps to turn left and 4 beeps to turn rights in guidance. Currently it's not possibile. I prefer beeps as it's uses less battery than text-to-speech.
Today I will try the guidance anyway with text-to-speech to confirm.
Do you think its possible to incorporate that function (beeps left/right) ?
Thank you.
Following GPX route with turns left/right works great in navigation but not with guidance with beeps. I thought I would like to configure 2 beeps to turn left and 4 beeps to turn rights in guidance. Currently it's not possibile. I prefer beeps as it's uses less battery than text-to-speech.
Today I will try the guidance anyway with text-to-speech to confirm.
Do you think its possible to incorporate that function (beeps left/right) ?
Thank you.
Hi Krzysztof,
it is possible to use something similar to your needs in the navigation mode. Download "Morse Voice Samuel" from Locus Store and select it as the navigating voice in the navigation settings (https://docs.locusmap.eu/doku.php?id=manual:user_guide:functions:navigation:settings#select_voice).
best regards
Michal
Hi Krzysztof,
it is possible to use something similar to your needs in the navigation mode. Download "Morse Voice Samuel" from Locus Store and select it as the navigating voice in the navigation settings (https://docs.locusmap.eu/doku.php?id=manual:user_guide:functions:navigation:settings#select_voice).
best regards
Michal
Hi Michal,
That workaround helped a little bit. I tried to test it in the town and encountered some issues. Not sute how it's going to work on the MTB trail in the mountains. Having implemented function for left/right turns in "Guidance" would resolve the issue.
Thank you for your help and assistance. I really appreciate it. Once again, Locus Maps it's a great software!
Best Regards,
Krzysztof
Hi Michal,
That workaround helped a little bit. I tried to test it in the town and encountered some issues. Not sute how it's going to work on the MTB trail in the mountains. Having implemented function for left/right turns in "Guidance" would resolve the issue.
Thank you for your help and assistance. I really appreciate it. Once again, Locus Maps it's a great software!
Best Regards,
Krzysztof
Hi Krzysztof,
there is a similar idea at our helpdesk: https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/in-guidance-mode-beep-correspondingly-left-or-right-audio-channel-when-out-of-course. You can vote for it. Nevertheless, it got only 2 votes in three years so it's quite improbable this option will be implemented.
best regards
MIchal
Hi Krzysztof,
there is a similar idea at our helpdesk: https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/in-guidance-mode-beep-correspondingly-left-or-right-audio-channel-when-out-of-course. You can vote for it. Nevertheless, it got only 2 votes in three years so it's quite improbable this option will be implemented.
best regards
MIchal
It is slightly different functionality request that what I'm looking for. When I use the AndroidPhone for navigating outdoor I use the phone's Speaker instead of headphones. The idea for mine and the other requests is to AVOID looking at the device during guidance/navigation. It would be nice to have in GUIDANCE the following new features:
1. Separate entries for left/right turns as beeps when following the route.
2. Separate entries for left/right as beeps when out of the route.
Do you think I may propose the functionality in the Help Desk?
Thanks.
Krzysztof
It is slightly different functionality request that what I'm looking for. When I use the AndroidPhone for navigating outdoor I use the phone's Speaker instead of headphones. The idea for mine and the other requests is to AVOID looking at the device during guidance/navigation. It would be nice to have in GUIDANCE the following new features:
1. Separate entries for left/right turns as beeps when following the route.
2. Separate entries for left/right as beeps when out of the route.
Do you think I may propose the functionality in the Help Desk?
Thanks.
Krzysztof
Just curious.
I tried to test it in the town and encountered some issues.
Some issues = ?
Just curious.
I tried to test it in the town and encountered some issues.
Some issues = ?
Hi,
I unpacked the morse code sounds and realized that "left" turns are indicated as 1 beep and "right" turns as 2 beeps. When attempted to navigate a few times I got 2 beeps (right turn) but the route on screen was showing "left".
I can't understand why and what's wrong.
Best regards.
Hi,
I unpacked the morse code sounds and realized that "left" turns are indicated as 1 beep and "right" turns as 2 beeps. When attempted to navigate a few times I got 2 beeps (right turn) but the route on screen was showing "left".
I can't understand why and what's wrong.
Best regards.
Good day Krzysztof,
interesting idea. Why text-to-speech notification option is not suitable for your needs?
Extra settings sound too complicated for me, but what about adding different sounds for these four cases? Are we able to create four different beep sounds that will be different enough, to correctly notice it during a ride? Such solution should be directly hard coded in the application without the need for more settings.
Menion
Good day Krzysztof,
interesting idea. Why text-to-speech notification option is not suitable for your needs?
Extra settings sound too complicated for me, but what about adding different sounds for these four cases? Are we able to create four different beep sounds that will be different enough, to correctly notice it during a ride? Such solution should be directly hard coded in the application without the need for more settings.
Menion
Hi Menion :)
I use the Locus Maps mainly for MTB off-road rides in the mountains.
I found "guidance" more accurate than "navigation" when following imported GPX route. The guidance configured with beeps uses less energy than Text-to-speech in navigation. Additionally when following GPX track I do not need to have a map loaded. Overall guidance is roughly 30% more energy efficient than navigation.
The problem I have is mainly when descending fast and "guidance" informs about turn (left or right). Currently I have to stop to look at the device to figure out whether to turn left or right. With proposed function I can hear the notice to turn left or turn right without looking at the device.
/PS: please vote for this new Locus enhancement.
Kind regards,
Krzysztof
Hi Menion :)
I use the Locus Maps mainly for MTB off-road rides in the mountains.
I found "guidance" more accurate than "navigation" when following imported GPX route. The guidance configured with beeps uses less energy than Text-to-speech in navigation. Additionally when following GPX track I do not need to have a map loaded. Overall guidance is roughly 30% more energy efficient than navigation.
The problem I have is mainly when descending fast and "guidance" informs about turn (left or right). Currently I have to stop to look at the device to figure out whether to turn left or right. With proposed function I can hear the notice to turn left or turn right without looking at the device.
/PS: please vote for this new Locus enhancement.
Kind regards,
Krzysztof
Hello,
understand, but why "Currently I have to stop to look at the device to figure out whether to turn left or right." ... if you select Text-to-speech? It should directly say which turn to take.
Hello,
understand, but why "Currently I have to stop to look at the device to figure out whether to turn left or right." ... if you select Text-to-speech? It should directly say which turn to take.
Small sorry for hijacking this thread. I've merged the duplicated topic made by Krzychu, where we already partially discussed this feature. Sorry for double notification emails and thanks for understanding.
Small sorry for hijacking this thread. I've merged the duplicated topic made by Krzychu, where we already partially discussed this feature. Sorry for double notification emails and thanks for understanding.
but you can't assign either speech or any signals to the information "turn right", "turn left" because there is no choice if I understood it correctly, what you mean
but you can't assign either speech or any signals to the information "turn right", "turn left" because there is no choice if I understood it correctly, what you mean
As I mentioned earlier I don't want to use Text2Speech with the noisy wind in the ears It's hard to understand any T2S voice. For this reason I prefer Beeps. In guidance there is only one configuration item for all turn. I need separate options for left and right turns.
As I mentioned earlier I don't want to use Text2Speech with the noisy wind in the ears It's hard to understand any T2S voice. For this reason I prefer Beeps. In guidance there is only one configuration item for all turn. I need separate options for left and right turns.
Well said Michał. For multiday unsupported events every piece of energy counts.
Hi Locus, please implement this feature into the app. Thanks
Well said Michał. For multiday unsupported events every piece of energy counts.
Hi Locus, please implement this feature into the app. Thanks
[Quote] Overall guidance is roughly 30% more energy efficient than navigation.
Impressive 30 % ? Must be dedectable > Test.
After Locus install > To do: Degrease too many (bla bla bla) Locus Navigation instructions by:
Navigation > TTS > * Compact TTS by edit xx.tts - ** Single announcement by edit config.cfg - Two commands at once uncheck
Navigation > Voice Morse by Locus store. > ** Single announcement by edit config.cfg - Two commands at once uncheck
Airplane mode - Display continuous OFF ! - Battery 100% charged - Virtual drive by Lockito.
Measurement by simple USB powermonitoring tool (non professional).
Powerconsumption indication over 40 minutes/mode - (4 x identical testdrive/circuit).
Result:
Navigation by TTS: 0,628 Wh
Navigation by Voice Morse (L/R/S/+): 0,636 Wh
Guiding by TTS: 0,698 Wh
Guiding by tone (3 beeps): 0,642 Wh.
* examples: https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=3245.msg49934#msg49934
(Use google translate & login to the forum to find the attachments)
** # times before command, when Locus notify (in seconds), default is: 15|35|300navigation_announcements_times=15
[Quote]/PS: please vote for this new Locus enhancement.
Frequency - Speed - Code ? http://www.morseresource.com/morse/makemorse.php
[Quote] Overall guidance is roughly 30% more energy efficient than navigation.
Impressive 30 % ? Must be dedectable > Test.
After Locus install > To do: Degrease too many (bla bla bla) Locus Navigation instructions by:
Navigation > TTS > * Compact TTS by edit xx.tts - ** Single announcement by edit config.cfg - Two commands at once uncheck
Navigation > Voice Morse by Locus store. > ** Single announcement by edit config.cfg - Two commands at once uncheck
Airplane mode - Display continuous OFF ! - Battery 100% charged - Virtual drive by Lockito.
Measurement by simple USB powermonitoring tool (non professional).
Powerconsumption indication over 40 minutes/mode - (4 x identical testdrive/circuit).
Result:
Navigation by TTS: 0,628 Wh
Navigation by Voice Morse (L/R/S/+): 0,636 Wh
Guiding by TTS: 0,698 Wh
Guiding by tone (3 beeps): 0,642 Wh.
* examples: https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=3245.msg49934#msg49934
(Use google translate & login to the forum to find the attachments)
** # times before command, when Locus notify (in seconds), default is: 15|35|300navigation_announcements_times=15
[Quote]/PS: please vote for this new Locus enhancement.
Frequency - Speed - Code ? http://www.morseresource.com/morse/makemorse.php
Guiding ONLY by tones ?
Instructions by code sounds (morse) in the guiding modus for ontrack L/R/S (all variants slight/sharp) no problem.
Be guided (no street pattern/recalculation) toward the track position by sound ONLY is more complicated ?
hmm...No Display View.. ONLY by Sound (tones) ?
I was thinking at the * Lorenz navaid system > but ear comfortable, by on track muted 'equi' signal.
1. The optimal 'equi' small range by: SET off track trigger (32m)
2. Off track: Generate guiding tone indications toward track by:
- Continuous (low comfortable tone frequency) dot zone > move rightwards.
- Continous (low comfortable tone frequency) dash zone > move leftwards
Reversed sound pattern ? = You are moving into the "Knickebein" reversed direction ;-)
To Test: Find prefered comfortable lower tone frequency and ritmus.
Out of track warning correction is only occasionally and temporarily !
Attached: example (400 Hz) and (330 Hz).
A fastly produced demo. (Dots could be shorter and dashes be longer ?)
Corrections: "Move rightwards / Equi / Move leftwards".(Not sure if people (MTB) would love the 'noise')
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorenz_beam
Guiding ONLY by tones ?
Instructions by code sounds (morse) in the guiding modus for ontrack L/R/S (all variants slight/sharp) no problem.
Be guided (no street pattern/recalculation) toward the track position by sound ONLY is more complicated ?
hmm...No Display View.. ONLY by Sound (tones) ?
I was thinking at the * Lorenz navaid system > but ear comfortable, by on track muted 'equi' signal.
1. The optimal 'equi' small range by: SET off track trigger (32m)
2. Off track: Generate guiding tone indications toward track by:
- Continuous (low comfortable tone frequency) dot zone > move rightwards.
- Continous (low comfortable tone frequency) dash zone > move leftwards
Reversed sound pattern ? = You are moving into the "Knickebein" reversed direction ;-)
To Test: Find prefered comfortable lower tone frequency and ritmus.
Out of track warning correction is only occasionally and temporarily !
Attached: example (400 Hz) and (330 Hz).
A fastly produced demo. (Dots could be shorter and dashes be longer ?)
Corrections: "Move rightwards / Equi / Move leftwards".(Not sure if people (MTB) would love the 'noise')
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorenz_beam
Hi Krzystof,
it is not up to me who decides, there are many other factors. Anyway, 6 votes is not many, regarding overall number of Locus users.
best regards
Michal
Hi Krzystof,
it is not up to me who decides, there are many other factors. Anyway, 6 votes is not many, regarding overall number of Locus users.
best regards
Michal
I'm glad to see this request. Was often thinking the same. My idea was (relative to north direction)
0 beeps: N
1 beep: W
2 beeps: S
a higher freq beep after: +45 deg
i. e:
2xlow, high: go SW
I'm glad to see this request. Was often thinking the same. My idea was (relative to north direction)
0 beeps: N
1 beep: W
2 beeps: S
a higher freq beep after: +45 deg
i. e:
2xlow, high: go SW
Sorry, I do not support complex fantasy development so - 1 vote.
Sorry, I do not support complex fantasy development so - 1 vote.
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