Recalculate/reroute navigation with add/remove route points

Robert Teterycz shared this idea 5 years ago
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I frequently use navigation while biking. Sometimes I need to reroute to shop or bar which is far from original route and back to original planed points. It is different way and need to recalculate. I do it by canceling navigation and then add new and previous points. It would be better to recalculate / reroute with change or remove current points option or just use different calculation of route fast bike... when I'm tired.

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Hi Jorge,


there is no way how to add transit points during ongoing navigation. Thanks for an idea, we'll think about it.

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This is an good Idea I think so

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Hello Robert

if you use BRouter you can recalculate your route while navigation, additional you can set e.g. "via points" and "no go areas"

A possible solution for something similar your task i described

http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/blocked

one little bit hidden option you get on long click on "recalculate" button, then it´s possible to change the routing profile ;-))


Wolfgang

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Thanks Wolfgang. I learned new option with fast points, but recalculate option is not working. works calculation by BRouter as application but not in my Locus Map Pro.

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IMHO, Fast points need lauching BRouter application and importing the new GPS route to Locus.


I would personally use switching to simple navigation directly to that new point, and that I would return to the original route with route priority recalculation .

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I support the original idea. That BRouter workaround is imho inadequate. Almost as complicated as starting a new navigation, and totally "unorganic" in Locus.

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Having the possibility to add waypoint when navigation is already turned on is essential for me. Google maps can do it, mapy.seznam.cz can do it, why not Locus? For me it is a common pattern – to go from A to B and then reaize I need to do something in place C which is alongthe way but slightly off the course. I do not want to stop navigation and enter the new start and end… just to add a place in the middle.

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I agree that relaunching the route calculation procedure(*) with previously provided points(**) and the newly inserted viapoint makes sense and would be a useful feature.

IIRC, there are only 2 supported viapoints in the standard navigation/routing interface, so I need to bear it in his mind, or there can be a refusal. Most services do not support viapoints, so routes are calculated per route segments. I am not sure how the online services like paid Mapquest or free Yours/OSRM evaluate the request traffic, if by data volume, or by request counts. The latter could be reason for Menion not to allow too many viapoints.


(*) - as that will be needed

(**) - probably with the current position as the start

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I was very surprised when today, during a hike, I tried to recalculate an active route adding a new point or changing the destination.

I think this should be present in such an advanced app like Locus and it's very strange not to see such an useful option.

Adding +1 to the "I like this idea".

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I have tried to understand the recommended thread https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/blocked

So I compared Osmand and Locus. I made screenvideos

Osmand: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1G9Qt7psVC04X-jR_EmJlIMGW8piEplwh

I need 9 seconds for one via point and recalculation.

Locus: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1AucWRiePwUNPQA9utqpwaFgac-PvZ-L1

I need 27 seconds for one via point and recalculation.

It could be faster, if I am using fast editing of points.

But I have to delete this points afterwards, because brouter consider this points, if I am planning a new trip some days later.

Next issue with this way of setting via points.

If the route have still some viapoints, I am not able to order this viapoints from door to door with Locus. But this is possible in osmand.

So I tried to set a via point with the routplanner.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=11vxbgx9rE1amTML8ZE5FUoXx1z40C2Ao

I need 29 seconds for one via point and recalculation.

But osmand have another advantage. With Osmand I am able to set a via point still cycling. Using Locus I have to stop cycling. So I think it is allowed to say, the usability of the management of viapoints in Locus could be more higher.

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Just to make sure, do you compare comparable, using BRouter for both OsmAnd and LocusMap ?

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In both cases I use Brouter. I am setting the via points like I would do in this apps, if I am using one of this apps, using a existing routing.

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Any input about this?

12 votes seems a pretty good base to implement this (very important) change...

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My "personal" opinion: must have a function that for some reason still miss in the app.

Because of some plans that need to be done first, expect it fully working on next season 2020, not sooner sorry. Well, it is not a promise (rather) anyway if I personally something misses during my rides, there is a lot higher chance, it will be implemented :). Thanks for understanding.

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What happened to this idea? I constantly come across it on holidays.

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This idea has been still in development.

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Exact. It would have been wonderful to just be able to add one more stop during navigation.

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However isn't most of this functionality available via the Route Planner? Yes, a little bit longer/ few more taps, but a workaround for now.

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It definitely works as a workaround, but if it would have been simpler to be able to click directly on the navigation track and select the route planner. Now I have to stop the navigation and bring up the track to be able to click on it and select the route plan. But as I said, the optimal thing was to be able to add another point in the map view. Hold down the place I want to add and select add to route. I have downloaded the test version of LM4 and it seems very promising but this feature would add something really good.

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I've been using Locus for navigation for the last two days during bike trip and I have to say I find it not very user friendly. Not being able to simply modify proposed route, among other issues, made me go and look for alternatives to Locus :(

I found out this can be done with route planer. It looks like ideal solution. Am I missing something?

I suppose the drawback of using route planner is that it's limited to BRouter, and I could not find a way to make BRouter avoid unpaved roads (road bike mode)?

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I'd be happy to edit a route during navigating along it in an easy way. It's quite cumbersome: cancel navigation, select track, open route planner, edit route, save, start navigation again.

In LM4 is a new feature that let's you make additions, at least. However it seems to have side effects.

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